[LBGA]

Yet many, according to M Goudineau, had done deals with Caesar and put up little or no fight.

LOL!!! Would that be those in and around Vichy? Wonder if Caesar's Conquests talks about the natural inclination of the French to give up.

[bigcheese]

"It was Julius Caesar who gave the name of Gaul to the territories he had conquered, drawing an arbitrary boundary between France and Germany. In their quest for glory, the Romans depicted their enemies as warlike, courageous and uncontrollable, an image that retains its force in France today. Yet many, according to M Goudineau, had done deals with Caesar and put up little or no fight."

In a related development, the eminent scholar BigCheese also noted: "D*mn! The more things change, the more things stay the same"

[Spirited]

Gaul-Lump

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

Yet many, according to M Goudineau, had done deals with Caesar and put up little or no fight.

Yep, that sure sounds like the French that we've come to know and love!

[curmudgeonII]

. M Goudineau claims that the bird is not the Gallic emblem that France believes it to be. In fact, it was an insult

Sacre bleu, mon ami, you are nothing but a soiled rooster!

[VadeRetro]

Asterix Le Gaulois.

[RightOnline]

What the hell..........I'll cut 'em some slack. They may have engaged in backsliding since, but right after 9/11 the French united in backing our country. I may have my gripes with them, but I'll never forget that show of support and solidarity.

God bless 'em.

[TomGuy]

Next, Christian Goudineau will be demanding reparations for the embarrassment being called Gallic has wrought...so he will be suing Italy...or Rome, Georgia, USA.

[mdittmar]

The French response to Christian Goudineau, just in from the AP!

[A. Pole]

THE French identity is based on an historical nonsense, according to an academic who says that the Gauls were a fiction invented by the Romans and exploited by French revolutionaries after 1789.

Strange, this man clearly never saw the Asterix!

[mlo]

...but remained popular because his roots were seen to be deep in the Gallic myth: a healthy appetite for food, alcohol and women.

Whatever the history, it's a mistake to say these characteristics are myth. If they weren't true 2000 years ago, there sure are now, and they are the principle redeeming characteristics of the French.

[shrinkermd]

Good and interesting post. Thank you. Only the French would feel good about in being enslaved and murdered by the Romans.

[Moonmad27]

To me, "By Toutatis!" is only what Asterix and Obelix yell when it's clobberin' time.

[tomakaze]

RE:warlike, courageous and uncontrollable,
 
...who had as many words for "surrender" as eskimos have for "snow"

[ValenB4]

There was no such thing as "France" until the Franks came to dominate Western Europe. Ancient Gaul wasn't French yet.

[TransOxus]

Goudineau is quite right in his book debunking the Gallic myth. Interesting to see his claim that most Gauls capitulated without much of a fight as in that excellent comic book series, Asterix's village was the only one which apparently put up a fight while the rest of the villages had caved in to the Romans. Until the Romans came and brought civilization followed by Christianity, France and the British Isles mostly resembled uncivilized mosaics of people just as Africa is now. It took a few hundred years of interbreeding of the aboriginals (original purebred sons and daughters of the soil) with invaders to break the mold and Christianity to give them a soul and aspiration to civilization.

[Restorer]

I'm not quite sure what to make of this. They contrasted dramatically in customs with the Germans who lived just across the Rhine.

As for their caving in, just like their descendants in WWII:

1. The French fought a great many wars (probably hundreds) over the last thousand years or so. Of those wars, they were ignominiously defeated in exactly one. They didn't always win, but they always fought bravely. Not a bad record, overall.

2. Caesar, perhaps the greatest military mind leading the most perfectly adapted military machine in history, took eight years (I think) to conquer the Gauls. Of the six million Gauls, at the end of the war perhaps 2,000,000 were dead and another million had been sold into slavery.

So much for ignominious surrender. They were defeated by superior technology and (especially) discipline. Nobody, especially the Romans, ever claimed they weren't brave.

[SunkenCiv]

Metal detector finds silver ring for a bloodthirsty god[UK]
Leighton Buzzard Observer | 23 May 2008 | Mick King
Posted on 05/23/2008 2:04:37 PM PDT by BGHater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2020423/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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[Enchante]

I’m sorry, this “scholar” must be on something because anything immortalized by Asterix and Obelix is TRUE!

Actually, they didn’t get too far toward the unification of Gaul, did they?