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what do you think the US would do if this happened since 1993 to the US

Posted on 04/04/2002 4:36:22 PM PST by newsperson999

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To: anniegetyourgun
Be happy with your chosen position - on the sidelines, carping.

Believe me, I don't like to see the RepublicRats floundering. My sole porpoise is to shed a ray of enlightment on Bushbots everywhere, just for the halibut.

21 posted on 04/04/2002 5:06:42 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: Cyber Liberty
>>sigh<< So many people seem to be incapable of advancing beyond a Manichean world view. Hence the sad state of American politics.

They're playing you like a fiddle, boy.

22 posted on 04/04/2002 5:13:51 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: newsperson999
Put the Democrooks, Gephart, Daschle, Gore, Clinton, etc. in charge and call the terrorist dirty names.
23 posted on 04/04/2002 5:21:38 PM PST by Joee
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To: LarryLied
There are reasons why Israel lost the PR battle...

Today, near Farragut North Metro station in downtown DC, there were two clean-cut, white, suburbanite kids holding a sign pointing out how many Palestinian civilians have been killed with US taxpayers' money. Yes, the PR battle is indeed turning. Even liberal media - ABC morning news today ran two long pieces sympathetic to Palestinians and portraying Israeli soldiers as trigger-happy and brutal.

My question is, why aren't American Jews supporting Israel? Why aren't Spielberg and Streisand and Seinfeld and other celebrities going to Israel and eating out at a restaurant or going to a cafe? Why aren't young American Jews going back to Israel to fight, like the socialists did in the 1930's in Spain? Why are the Jewish-influenced media not cranking up the propaganda machine?

Methinks that Jews have seen the writing on the wall and know that Israel isn't going to survive much longer.

24 posted on 04/04/2002 5:23:51 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: newsperson999
Need you ask? I still say all these terrorist organizations are connected and help each other. I also think Bush waffeling is to stall other countries so Israel has time to get a handle on this situation. Israel is getting lots of info and seems to be keeping us informed. What I am stuck on is why so much of the world supports terrorists.
26 posted on 04/04/2002 5:34:35 PM PST by dalebert
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To: newsperson999
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
 
Since the U.S. is 50 times as large as Israel, you first have to multiply the number of incidents by fifty.

27 posted on 04/04/2002 5:37:14 PM PST by john in missouri
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To: a_Turk
FYI--handing out small pox blankets to Indians is a myth--there is no evidence that this ever happened.
28 posted on 04/04/2002 5:38:38 PM PST by duvausa
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To: xm177e2
If anyone tried to terrorize us, patriotic but deranged individuals would act against their communities... if the Muslims continued to attack us, and refused to condemn the attacks, they would be attacked in spades here. Hate crimes would go through the roof. Mosques would be shot and burned.

Even if the Muslims attacked nobody but Jews, the vast majority of "counter-hate crimes" would be carried out by non-Jews. Good ol' boys protect the liberal yuppies by threatening to git medieval on random Muslims.

Xem, that's the difference between emasculated cultures, like the Europeans', and ours: American men, best in the world.

29 posted on 04/04/2002 5:45:00 PM PST by happygrl
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To: LarryLied
For starters, America would have the sense not to turn everyone in the world against us by constantly shaking everyone down for reparations, smearing entire countries and playing victim to the point where billions of people don't want anything to do with us.

Only a "minority" of the U.S. population does what you have just described.

30 posted on 04/04/2002 5:45:51 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: Arleigh
My question is, why aren't American Jews supporting Israel?

Too busy on FR defending Rahm Emmanuel, defending the ADL, defending Lazar Moisseïevitch Kaganovitch, defending the teachers unions and defending Bernard Schwartz?

(yes, I have seen defenses of all the above recently. This forum is not what it was 6 months ago)

31 posted on 04/04/2002 5:50:31 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: mrfixit514
Only a "minority" of the U.S. population does what you have just described.

Amazing itself it? All out of proportion. I would like to see a break down by religion of donations to the DNC. Bet the numbers are staggering.

32 posted on 04/04/2002 5:53:00 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: duvausa
FYI--handing out small pox blankets to Indians is a myth--there is no evidence that this ever happened.
Spoil sport. Next thing, you'll be telling us that sharks still swim the seas between the US and Africa, hoping for more of the 650 million slaves pushed overboard.

(n.b.: I'm not minimizing what happened to the Indians or the Africans. It was terrible. But exaggeration diminishes the truth, which you well recognize!)


33 posted on 04/04/2002 5:53:04 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: newsperson999
If this happened in MY country: I would personally have hunted Arafat down and shot him like a dog in the street.
34 posted on 04/04/2002 5:56:46 PM PST by cutlass
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To: newsperson999
Since 1993... well, we had a ME terrorist plot to plant a bomb in the LA International Airport, and we didn't do anything but arrest the guy. There were no repercussions for his bosses overseas. We had a bomb go off in the WTC the first time, but fortunately the cyanide part of their plan didn't work. We arrested some of those involved but there was no death penalty and not much reaction from the US. That led to the embassy bombings overr in Africa, done because we dared to hold their muslim cleric prisoner over the WTC attack. We pretty much did nothing about those attacks either, firing off a few cruise missiles at empty camps.

We have had pipe bomb assasinations of Muslim moderates in the US by a group called al-Fuqra, related to a bigger terror group out of Pakistan. There was an American journalist investigating terrorism in America who was threatened with a fatwa, etc., but nothing could be done because the US really didn't want to admit it had a problem. The Us offered the guy an opening in the Witness Protection if he was willing to change identity, but told the guy he could just quit investigating the terrorists and the fatwas might go away. An airliner goes into the drink after Islamic groups threatened to take down an airliner during the Olympics in Atlanta, and the US treats it like an isolated incident... it doesn't look too accidental and the Arab-American supporters initiate and spread some conspiracy theories about it being shot down by the USN.

The phillippines expose a plot which sounds remarkably similar to those of 9/11. OK City, a center for Islamic terrorist meetings and groups becomes the victim of a "right wing" bomber who "didn't have Iraqi links"- or did he? And the US is thickly infiltrated by Islamic radical groups who use out liberties to fund murder overseas and here at home, and to propagandize shrilly about the Jooos and the Great Satan itself, and to link with American aryan hate groups over US ME policy.

This sort of thing has been happening for YEARS with little if any response from the US. If anything, investigation into American Islamic terrorist groups was sharply curtailed by the Clinton Administration, all the while the US energy department and other parts of the US government were funding internet access, Anti-American newspapers (yes, we pay for those PA newspapers, folks!), cell phone projects and electricity projects in palestinian territory so that they could better conduct terrorism. Wecalled it "humanitarian aid." The US probably BOUGHT Arafat and Hamas and all their other terrorist buddies those cell phones and computers they use to coordinate attacks and to defame the US in the press.

And now the world calls anti-terrorists "terrorists and occupiers" but won't call a terrorist a terrorist because the world still has a fantasy that a terrorist won't behave like a terrorist if we all pretend he is not a terrorist so as to not hurt not-quite-a-terrorist feelings and cause them to do more not-quite-terrosistic acts. We will treat the biggest not-quite-a-terrorist like he is merely a distinguished diplomat of a "not-quite-a-terrorist" terrorist-like fantasyland full of other people we will pretend are not-quite-supporters of terrorists because if we admitted they were terrorists and terrorist supporters we would have to admit we are willing to negotiate with terrorists and would have to admit that the line about supporting a terrorist making you a terrorist was really not meant to appley to people who are terrorists. So we must continue to tell lourselves they are not terrorists but are merely "armed, unusually persistant late term abortionists" and "practitioners of involuntary euthenasia" who need a place where they can freely conduct "involuntary euthenasia" against both people they will call citizens and people who have the good fortune of cashing in on the deal while eating pizza and minding their own business. The not-quite-terrorists need a safe haven from which they can manage their "late term abortion services" to the Israelis and where unappreciative customers cannot send any of those dreaded Israeli "complaint letters." We know the not-quite-terrorists occasionally make human meat by-products for fun and profit but never because it is the nature of terrorists to blow up other people. Why? Because terrorists would never create such a separatist state where they could harbor and nurture more not-quite-terrorists and where they could abuse and brainwash more people like themselves to "generously give of themselves" and "distribute free nails and scrap metal" to ungrateful Israelis. Would they?

Whew. Now, does anyone remember if bin Laden was a not-quite-a-terrorist or if he was just a terrorist? Was he a not-quite-a-terrorist and Americans are just not appreciative of his efforts to deal with population control in the US with free, unusually late late-term abortion services and unusually early euthanasia programs? Or was he a terrorist because he was not an Arab palestinian but merely an Arab non-palestinian? Can palestinian leaders be terrorists or do they haves some sort of in-built resistance to being terrorists when they behave like them in every way? Does the Saudi bin Laden have such a resistance and it wore off, or, do non-palestinians have such resistance at all? Was bin Laden a terrorist because his targets were American business people but not just people attending a bat Mitzvah? What is a terrorist? I'm not so sure anymore.

35 posted on 04/04/2002 6:00:06 PM PST by piasa
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To: happygrl
It's not entirely a good thing. The only person to have been killed so far was a Sikh (and they aren't Muslims).
36 posted on 04/04/2002 7:05:45 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Arleigh
Oh my cod, that was enlightenment?
37 posted on 04/04/2002 8:25:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: xm177e2
That's true. And it was wrong. As would be mob violence. But unless the government, whose prime reason for being is to keep order, does what is required to protect its citizens, that's what might result.
39 posted on 04/04/2002 8:41:20 PM PST by happygrl
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To: kalvin21
well, if i took someone elses land and occupying it i would ecspect it coming. because you just dont take from others and treat them like animals and not give them nothing.

Since you're unclear on the history, let me remind you that Israel won Judea and Samaria (the so-called "West Bank" and the Golan Heights during the 1967 war. Who started that war?

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That's right. The nations surrounding Israel, full of Palestinians. That land is therefore Israeli, won in defensive battle. That the Israelis would have surrendered sovereignity, for a lasting peace, over that land to the Palestinians shows their magnamity.

40 posted on 04/05/2002 6:43:16 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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