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New Kids Book: "The Preborn Christ: A Story of God in the Womb"
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| 4-8-2002
Posted on 04/08/2002 4:54:14 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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Please please please ping all around - looks like everyone will want to get a copy for their kids, grandkids; godchildren and friends.
To: Notwithstanding
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04/08/2002 5:02:58 PM PDT
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Diago
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To: Notwithstanding
The Preborn Christ is a beautifully illustrated and deeply moving story of a little boy named Jeremiah who is traveling to Passover with his family. The adventure starts when a beautiful angel brings him to Nazareth. An endearing and exciting relationship begins for Jeremiah when he meets Jesus the Messiah, who is growing in the womb of His Mother Mary. Jeremiah falls in love with Jesus his Savior as he sees and experiences the development of Jesus' human body. With his angel, Jeremiah stays by Jesus' side through Jesus' Birth and Resurrection and learns the truth about man's Salvation. It reads like an Onion parody, but evidently is true. True and bizarre. And outrageous.
What twisted lengths single-issue theocrats will go to to advance their agenda -- total dictatorial control of all human beings.
To: Risky Schemer
Jesus is a historical fact. He lived in his mother's womb - just like you did - and all his unique DNA was present at the instant of conception - just like yours was.
Go be irrational on some other thread.
To: Risky Schemer
When did the unique life of your body begin? When did the beginning happen for your body?... At conception or moments following the ovum of your mother being fertilized by the spermatozoa of your father. The individual's life begins at conception. That's science, RS. Abortion terminates an individual life already in existence.
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posted on
04/08/2002 11:24:50 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
To: MHGinTN;saundra duffy; notwithstanding
Ping<))) Like the Gideon Bible in hotels, The Preborn Christ should be available in every abortionist waiting room and every PP office, on every public library shelf, and in every public school.
At worst, if considered historical fiction-- should satisfy atheists and agnostics and multi-cultural racists.
To: Notwithstanding,MHGinTN
Go be irrational on some other thread. Irrational is fabricating an extra-scriptural fantasy to support an idea the Bible does not support -- i.e., life begins at conception.
The Bible position is clear. Life begins at birth. (And new life begins at new birth.)
The individual's life begins at conception. That's science, RS.
Argue science if you want, but making up a story about Jesus in the womb and some kid named Jeremiah is about as far from science as you can get. Don't argue science when you're really using religion.
To: Risky Schemer
I'm not sure what Bible you're referring to. Mine says
For you created my imnost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body.All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
Psalm 139:13-16
Sounds to me like I had identity, therefore life before my birth.
To: Risky Schemer
You may want to rethink your assertions about when life begins based on scripture, including the passage in which the preborn John the Baptist "leaped for joy" while inside his mother's womb when he realized Jesus was near.
Luke 1:41-44
When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For at the moment the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy.
To: Notwithstanding
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posted on
04/09/2002 7:10:43 AM PDT
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patent
To: Risky Schemer
You have it wrong both scientifically and biblically. Any way you slice it, your position is not very rational.
To: mommybain
amen
To: Notwithstanding, mommybain
You have it wrong both scientifically and biblically. Any way you slice it, your position is not very rational. There is a Biblically-based side of the argument that abortion -- though wrong -- is not murder. The argument does not condone abortion, it simply argues that the Bible does not support the charge that it is murder.
It is significant to note the existence of such a difference of opinion as to what the Bible says about abortion. Why?
Because it underscores the danger of letting any group co-opt the powers of federal government to impose its idea of what the Bible (or any religious text) says on others -- at the point of government guns.
To: Risky Schemer
Maybe you should thank your mother for not murdering you when you were completely helpless. Don't forget to remind your former fetuses (aks children) That they out to be grateful to you because you could have murdered them if they came at an "inconvenient time".
Yes, how DARE Christians use the conception of Christ the savior to promote life! Have they no shame?(sarcastic rant off)
To: Risky Schemer
The Bible position is clear. Life begins at birth. Have you even READ the Bible? Jeremiah 1 : 4-10 Now the word of the LORD came to me saying, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."
Sounds like God considered Jeremiah alive.
To: Risky Schemer
P.S. You are a fool. You don't even know how to present your own argument.
First, of course a fetus is alive. An unborn baby is life by ALL scientific standards. An unborn baby moves voluntarily, an unborn baby reacts to stimulus, an unborn baby consumes, an unborn baby produces waste, an unborn baby has a hearbeat at only a couple of weeks, and brainwaves at only 10 weeks. To claim that an unborn baby is NOT alive is absurd.
Second, an unborn baby is human. Every cell in a fetus is human and contains 100% human genes.
The ONLY argument that people who support the murder of the unborn can even remotely make is some sick, twisted, demented definition of "person" because if you can argue that an unborn baby isn't a "person" then an unborn baby become simply an object to be murdered when it isn't convenient and discarded like trash.
To: Risky Schemer
What? A kids' book has you freaking out about 'control'? I presume you would rant about 'control' issues when articles are published about books entitled "Johnny Has Two Daddies" or some other such thing. If not, then you are a hypocrite.
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posted on
04/09/2002 10:43:11 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
To: Risky Schemer
If life begins at birth, would you at least vehemently oppose the 'partial birth abortion' type procedures?
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04/09/2002 10:45:17 AM PDT
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MEGoody
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