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Father posts bail for Ruth Christine in child kidnapping
Oregonlive.com ^ | 4/12/02 | AP

Posted on 04/12/2002 6:55:25 PM PDT by RGSpincich

The Associated Press
4/12/02 5:26 PM

GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) -- Ruth Christine, accused with her husband of kidnapping three of their daughters at gunpoint from state social workers, has been released from jail after her father posted bail.

Christine was freed from the Douglas County Jail in Roseburg on Sunday after her father, Philip Medland, posted the minimum bail in the kidnapping case being tried there. He also posted the minimum in a child mistreatment case being tried in Grants Pass.

Court papers listed Christine's address as a Jacksonville post office box.

Christine and her husband, Brian Christine, have been in jail since their arrests last August in Montana, where the children were also found.

They are scheduled to go on trial April 30 in Douglas County Court in the kidnapping case.

The mistreatment case is scheduled for July 9. That case accuses the couple of abusing their three daughters in 2000 while living in a converted city bus they had driven to Grants Pass from Indiana.

Child welfare authorities took custody of the girls after the charges were filed.

Last August, after a birthday visit, Brian Christine allegedly followed the social workers driving the girls back to a foster home and kidnapped his children at gunpoint at an Interstate 5 rest stop. Ruth Christine is accused of helping her husband.

The girls have been put in the custody of her parents, who live in England.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: abandonedinoregon; christine; daddytotherescue
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To: Demidog
His original indictment was thrown out by a judge

Is that how you say he has been arraigned on a superseding indictment?

21 posted on 04/13/2002 8:38:31 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Is that how you say he has been arraigned on a superseding indictment?

No it's how I say the original indictment was thrown out and the charges were brought before another grand jury. How would you have phrased it?

22 posted on 04/13/2002 8:40:28 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
RG won't mention that the state was moving to permanently remove the children even though there were no convictions obtained.

Didn't the state send the children to Ruth's parents?

23 posted on 04/13/2002 8:40:56 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin
Didn't the state send the children to Ruth's parents?

Not in the beginning. They placed them in foster care and denied the Christines visitation for 8 months even after the Christine's obtained a court order. The state abusers determined that visitation wasn't a good idea and was "traumatic" to the children given the tearful goodbyes.

It was only when the state threatened to terminate their parental rights permanently that the Christines acted to take their children back by force which was exactly the manner in which they were taken from them.

24 posted on 04/13/2002 8:46:23 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
and exageration instead of facts.

How many years?

25 posted on 04/13/2002 8:47:34 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
"How many Years?"

Almost 3. Hope that helps.

26 posted on 04/13/2002 8:49:30 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
The state abusers determined that visitation wasn't a good idea and was "traumatic" to the children given the tearful goodbyes.

And Kidnapping at gunpoint is a good idea?

27 posted on 04/13/2002 8:50:39 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: Demidog
Not really. Again you distort the facts. The police have backed off of their accusation that the injury was caused by Brian. They won't repeat it.

I'm repeating Sieradzki.

28 posted on 04/13/2002 8:51:20 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: TruthWillWin
And Kidnapping at gunpoint is a good idea?

Ask the state. They seem to think so.

29 posted on 04/13/2002 8:55:27 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: RGSpincich
I'm repeating Sieradzki.

No. You're not. I notice a distinct avoidance by you to acknowledge facts you've claimed were true but are in error. And a near obsession to change the subject once it has been shown you are stretching the truth if not breaking it entirely. Why is that?

30 posted on 04/13/2002 8:57:40 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
I don't know about you, but everyone I know doesn't consider the flu to be worthy of a hospital visit even for an infant.

Then it was more than the flu. They all spent several days in the hospital before being placed in foster care.

31 posted on 04/13/2002 9:05:35 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Then it was more than the flu. They all spent several days in the hospital before being placed in foster care.

Oh good grief. There was no evidence that there was anything wrong with the children that required the hospital stay. That is SOP for the state and they were given food and water just like they were given when with their parents. Later, a press release stating that they were treated for "dehydration and malnutrition" was issued.

Being treated for something and having it are two different things.

32 posted on 04/13/2002 9:12:58 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
I live where it gets over 100 degrees quite often and I don't use air conditioners (ceiling fans though), I hope that doesn't become a criteria for taking kids away.
33 posted on 04/13/2002 9:22:16 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: RGSpincich
The Christines were aware the girls had the flu and still remained in the bus. Sieradzki, in his defense of the Christines, does not state that they sought professional medical attention for the girls. And they did not.

Doctors can't do much for the flu since it's a virus ---I also don't take my kids to a doctor for the flu or colds. In fact my kids rarely see a doctor because I don't believe in overprescribing antibiotics.

34 posted on 04/13/2002 9:25:20 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Demidog
. Later, a press release stating that they were treated for "dehydration and malnutrition" was issued.

Don't forget the startling low weights that were reported. Must not forget Bernie Conrad's statement concerning keeping food from the children as discipline. Brian "sort of confessed" to him and I believe him. If you want to grasp onto the "sort of" go ahead, I don't see any reason for Conrad to lie.

35 posted on 04/13/2002 9:34:37 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Don't forget the startling low weights that were reported.

LOL. Yes and no corroborating evidence has been offered for those reports. And you keep bringing up Bernie's press statements as if they mean anything. You've already admitted it doesn't prove anything and could be construed to mean just about anything including that he sent his daughter to bed without supper once.

36 posted on 04/13/2002 9:39:47 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: RGSpincich
There are a lot of kids who aren't being fed right ---I wonder if there is more to this case. I'm not siding with the Christines because I don't know enough ---but the accusations on them are a little vague. I know of a mother here who left her children with her boyfriend while she went out partying, he killed the baby and she got her kids back. She also had previous visits by social workers because her kids were dirty and underfed. They seem quick to give some second, third, and more chances but not this couple.
37 posted on 04/13/2002 9:39:57 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
It's the dehydration and heat factor not the flu by itself. Poorly insulated metal bus in hundred degree temps with already sick girls should be concerning. It is not SOP to keep three healthy girls in the hospital for four days.
38 posted on 04/13/2002 9:40:24 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Demidog
Yes and no corroborating evidence has been offered for those reports.

To who? The Christines have seen the evidence and willingly relinquished their parental rights.

39 posted on 04/13/2002 9:47:40 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: FITZ
They seem quick to give some second, third, and more chances but not this couple.

It has something to do with the attitude and cooperation of the parents.

40 posted on 04/13/2002 9:51:08 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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