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It's a Mad, Mad World : Let us count the ways
The National Review ^ | April 12, 2002 | Victor Davis Hansen

Posted on 04/13/2002 8:34:02 PM PDT by krogers58

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To: The Giant Apricots
No one is saying Sharon is a saint. Only that Arafat is worse.

Only thing I don't like about Sharon is he hasn't put a bullet in Arafat's head and then taken out each and every other terrorist. He can do it too. The USA isn't stopping him.

21 posted on 04/13/2002 11:21:07 PM PDT by LarryLied
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and then taken out each and every other terrorist...

Well, going after terrorists is what Sharon is currently doing. If Powell fails to stop him. As is likely. Sharon has an opportunity to cripple Arafat's regime, and he's taking it. The question is the degree to which Syria-Lebanon will weigh in, along with ethnic Palestineans in Jordan and Saddam "nothin' left to lose" Hussein.

22 posted on 04/13/2002 11:29:36 PM PDT by The Giant Apricots
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To: The Giant Apricots
The USA isn't stopping Sharon. But it is the Democrat game plan to pretend we are. Blame everything on Powell and Bush.
23 posted on 04/13/2002 11:58:36 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
There is a drive on FR to shut down debate

Your drive by sliming posts are not debate, they are slander. Larry you are such a liar!

24 posted on 04/14/2002 12:26:12 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: LarryLied
For example your drive by sliming in your post here:

Given such recent troubling questions about its own principles in general and its past attitudes toward Jews in particular, why does the Vatican now, at this particularly embarrassing time, appeal to morality in condemning Israel's recent response to the terrorists' murdering of women and children?

How To Win Friends And Influence People Israeli style. Israelis are about to find out what Jesse Jackson is learning: the schtick wears thin.

The point of the article is how insane the world is in double standards. You quoted the part about how the pope is being hypocritical in pointing the finger at the Jews for defending themselves against mass murder by calling for morality, then your comments accuse the Jews of schtick? The link is non-existent, but the libelous, and out of context accusation of the Jews is far too clear. In the midst of a brilliant article, your KKK Krap is like a turd in a punchbowl at a wedding. The thread predictably died as people with taste left disgusted by your comments.

25 posted on 04/14/2002 12:36:52 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel;The Giant Apricots
quod erat demonstrandum
26 posted on 04/14/2002 12:39:36 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: American in Israel
the pope is being hypocritical

Why not go for the Big Casino? You have a billion Muslims who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Why not tick off a billion Catholics too? Maybe some Christians will get fed up and begin to mention who Stalin, Lenin and others hired as his hit men and ask why Israel refuses to extradict those accused of genocide and crimes against humanity to face justice.

27 posted on 04/14/2002 12:46:57 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: krogers58
Recent church histories suggest that in the 1930s — and perhaps during the war itself — its role in opposing anti-Semitism and the Holocaust was not impressive.

A nice example of the Smear Indirect. No names; nothing to attack -- just hit and run. So this slop was published in National Review, you say? How the times have changed.

Given such recent troubling questions about its own principles in general and its past attitudes toward Jews in particular, why does the Vatican now, at this particularly embarrassing time, appeal to morality...

If not now, when? If we're to ignore appeals to morality from all but the morally perfect, we can expect to enjoy untroubled consciences for a very long time indeed.

And why — as armed gunmen broke into the holiest site in Christendom, the birthplace of Jesus — did the Vatican admonish the Israelis, but say little about the intrusion of combatants upon its own holy premises

First of all, it's the Holy Sepulchre that's the holiest site in Jerusalem, but as has already been pointed out, this isn't your father's National Review.

The Church has been getting its hands dirty working for peace since the Crucifixion. Peace is almost never a matter of taking the part of one worldly belligerent against another, and the Church does well to resist manipulative attempts to reduce it to nothing more than a locus of ethical authority or make it the servant of a political agenda. Peace is not the same thing as victory, nor even the absence of hostility. The peace for which the Church works is one of reconciliation and perfect accord with the will of God. Reconciliation comes about through the grace of forgiveness. It is this ethic that the Church is in the Holy Land to proclaim; it is this alone that can save the Palestinians and the Jews from destroying each other -- and from destroying themselves as well.

28 posted on 04/14/2002 12:52:57 AM PDT by Romulus
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