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CODE 8 CALLUP WORLDWIDE FOR ISRAELIS
KFI649 Bill Handel Radio | 4/15/02 | happygrl

Posted on 04/15/2002 7:56:58 AM PDT by happygrl

http://www.kfi640.com/billhandel.html****BREAKING NEWS---Bill Handel's guest DR. Steve Pieczenik discussing the Middle East situation provided a scoop. Israel has announced a CODE 8 callup for Israelis world-wide. This means that all Israelis world-wide must return and report for service. Implication is things are ready to GET HOT.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: israel; middleeast; middleeastwar
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To: Robert_Paulson2
"They would have never begun their move on 9-11, if they did not think they could take us on and WIN."

I tend to think that, also. But, then I'm left with 'why'? Why would they think they could take us on, and win? Maybe clinton did more damage than we know? They had quite a bit of time to work out details during his treasonous administration. They'd have had more time had gore won. I think they needed that extra time. And then, there's china...

121 posted on 04/15/2002 1:30:53 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: philosofy123
THAT IS WHAT I SAID, AND YOU EVEN QUOTED ME?

Fool, I quoted you so that you, and everybody else, could see exactly what I was responding to. Note that I didn't (and still don't) agree with you. Peres is a Socialist, defeatist, self-hating Israeli. He is no more fit to run Israel in these circumstances than Neville Chamberlain was to run England during WW2. I also compared you to the Gore whiners, and I stand by that.

Since you don't get it, the italicized statement above is a direct quote of your post #114.

122 posted on 04/15/2002 1:47:28 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: BrooklynGOP
According to Drudge: "Washington DC Banks Closing, Due To FBI Warning " Something is about to hit the fan.

It looks like the banks were close due to a bomb threat.

123 posted on 04/15/2002 1:52:08 PM PDT by TankerKC
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To: LarryLied
Israel's refusal to extradict criminals and even murderers who did that has created a lot of ill will.

Meyer Lansky, the well-known Jewish head of Murder, Inc., was denied admittance under the Law of Return. Recently, Israel also extradited a Jewish individual who had murdered someone in Maryland and went to Israel under the Law of Return.

As usual, you don't get your facts straight. I don't expect any better. The last 4 letters of your sign-on name are quite appropriate.

124 posted on 04/15/2002 1:53:54 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: whadizit
while Powell is shuttling back and forth

Have you ever considered what would happen if they shot down his shuttle while he was in it?

What would be our response?

125 posted on 04/15/2002 2:09:40 PM PDT by Jackie222
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To: Jackie222
When he was in chopper the other day being shown where Hezbollah was firing at Israeli posts, it was reported that he saw a missile. It was not close to him, but he did see one. Don't the terrorists have those shoulder rocket things? Answer to your question: It gives me the heebie-jeebies. A horror would/should ensue. If we can get GW back to his "Let's Roll" mentality.
126 posted on 04/15/2002 2:18:37 PM PDT by whadizit
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To: ChaseR
He can afford to be casual now that he has moved across the street from you. Why do you think he hooked em from Israel? But he is wrong, Jerusalem will never be nuked. I am not sure about the rest of Israel, but I doubt it will be nuked either. The Muslim world would pitch a fit if it were nuked because if it where there could be no Palestine because of radioactivity, and their third holiest site is supposedly there.
127 posted on 04/15/2002 2:19:06 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: paul51
"Iran or Iraq?"

No, Iran. That threw me off too paul.
When he stated "Iran" I specifically remember this, as this stood out to me too, and I asked him again:
"You mean Iraq?" And he said: "No, Iran has nuclear capability now."
And I remember then saying: "Because of China? Because China has supplied Iran with nuclear capability?" And he said: "Yes, China and the Russians have supplied Iran with nuclear technology. And North Korea too."
And he went on to say that there were many Russian nuclear scientist who, after the wall came down, needed jobs, needed to eat, so "they went to work for Iran." (these aren't his exact words, but this was roughly what he said)

This is bad news for Israel. Just horrible. I wish I hadn't asked him any of this. But, when he said how high up he was back in the early '80s and that he worked directly with Sharon back then, I knew he might have some reliable information. :(

(And I'm still sitting here this afternoon, stunned/amazed how very nonchalant he stated that the end of Israel might be "within three years!") :(

128 posted on 04/15/2002 2:25:32 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: Diddle E. Squat
The President is hardly fiddling while this is going on! This country is most likely in the most dangerous position we have ever been in, and there is a very complicated tightrope the administration must walk on!
With all due respect, I doubt you or I are privy to the intelligence and ins and outs of the situation behind the scenes. There is more than meets the eye here, and I for one pray for our leaders, I do not ridicule them.
129 posted on 04/15/2002 2:45:37 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Libertina
"Excellent report CHaseR, and just like you to think of us and post it!"

Thank you. Like I said though, I wish I hadn't even heard any of this. I walk in a neighbors house who just moved in. The family is Israeli and he works for a big software comapany, he gets transferred to my town. And I know exactly how and what I want to ask this man - ...and he flat/and quite calmly - tells me.
(Now Libertina, I know that one time last year, I sounded quite outlandish - when I reported - that I was informed via telephone from a friend whose father owns that shipping company in Alabama and he told me that shipmates on one of their ships observed 40 and 80 ft oblong containers on the deck of a COSCO ship in the Gulf of Mexico, and that report of mine, just like this one with this new Israeli neighbor across the street - Well, believe me, this man does not seem the type to make these type replies up. No. Not at all. And worse yet, he had an air about him of ...'nothing we can do, so the end for Israel is close.'

This is just shattering to me. I'm just stunned.
(all those who know me personally, or live near me, those of you who I've personally chatted about FR - give me a call on the phone, you have my number/ come over and we can all listen to him/I'll have him come over and we can sit in my backyard and have some iced tea or whatever, and hear all of this for yourselves. :(:(:(

130 posted on 04/15/2002 2:47:31 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: LarryLied
"True enough but the Right of Return complicates it. More than a few people who were not Israelis fled to Israel when wanted for crimes."

That happens ALL THE TIME with dual nationals of many different countries. It is not limited to Israel. Did you know that if either of your parents were born in the UK you can automatically get citizenship there? This is the case in quite a few countries.

And how exactly is this related to the code 8 callup? You know, the topic that this thread is actually ABOUT!

131 posted on 04/15/2002 2:48:16 PM PDT by badfreeper
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To: monkeywrench, Robert_Paulson2
I think the key word is win, what does it mean to the Arabs, and the Muslims (although they are not necessarily the same) to win?

Clearly a win over Israel is eradication. Anything less, any infidels in the Middle East are unacceptable. Nukes or conventional, it does not matter.

I think they believe a win over the US is for us to be like Europe is now, too afraid to make a moral judgment and take a stand. Too afraid that the Islamic immigrants will “demonstrate” and do whatever else to unnerve their delicate balance and decadent ways. The Islamists see eventually that they will immigrate and populate their way to control. Eventually France will be an Islamic state, and no one will care.

We are close, but I have hopes that the US will recognize what is going on. When/if we do, what will be the response?

And yes, I think “Clinton” and liberalism, multiculturalism, etal, have done way more damage that we are prepared to admit.

132 posted on 04/15/2002 2:54:46 PM PDT by schu
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To: backhoe
Hi backhoe.
"While I don't doubt the earnestness of your new neighbor, unless the Arabs have several really large nukes or a lot of small ones,"

Let me add more details that I've not posted yet.
He said that many of the nukes that were left behind in all the Russians countries, (can't spell them and not going to go find a map, but - all the ones with stan at the end....well, my neighbor said that the Iranians "got some of those nukes." What "some" means - I asked him. He couldn't say.

I don't believe Israel will be obliterated. And I suspect our response would be devastating.

"our response"

.... don't know backhoe, nukes...gee - perhaps we should just stay out of any exchange like that...I just don't know what should be done??

133 posted on 04/15/2002 3:01:50 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: badfreeper
You brought the subject up,not me. I don't know of any countries which have done what Israel has done. Sheinbein ,an American citizen, kills and chops up a neighbor. He flees to Israel, applies for citizenship, gets it and then Israel refuses to extradict him to the USA.Salomon Morel is wanted by Poland for crimes against humanity he committed as a concentration camp boss and Nahman Dushanski wanted by Lithuania for genocide are both hiding out in Israel. Fair is fair. Israel should join the world community and play by the rules. It is in Israeli's best interest not to be seen as a Paraguay under Alfredo Stroessner.
134 posted on 04/15/2002 3:05:01 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: SauronOfMordor
"Regardless of how many nukes Israel has, in a nuclear exchange, Israel loses."

Exactly.

You know, as I sit here now, I am remembering yesterday that my neighbor, didn't mention what would happen to any of the Arab nations in that area if Israel gets nuked. I remember saying in my original post in this thread that Israel would strike back, but, I have no recollection about my neighbor saying what would happen to the folks who hit Israel. Hmmm....now, that sounds like an Israel army officer to me, huh. Making sure not mention what the retaliation would be ....Hmmm.

135 posted on 04/15/2002 3:10:12 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
Take heart, ChaseR. I've known people who are absolutely resolved on an issue, and then turn out to be mistaken. He's just one man and there are many players in the game. Above all, I believe that whatever happens, it will be the correct thing - especially if we stay active and have input. Keep on the reporting - it's very interesting. And I thank you for not presenting this as fact, but as what was told to you. We'll keep our fingers crossed and our prayers going. :)
136 posted on 04/15/2002 3:18:51 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Valin
"Great reply, thank your neighbor for his insights."
77 posted on 4/15/02 9:41 AM Pacific by Valin

Yes good Valin, I know, but I can't do that. When I came back across the street yesterday and walked in the door, it hit me to post all of this conversation with this new neighbor at FR. When I went over there, I had no idea this new neighbor was from Israel. But when I was invited in, and sat down, and we started talking, I knew what I was going to ask as we carried on. And think about this. This retired Israeli army fella, had/has - no idea - that I'm pretty big in my attendance at an all news site like FR. I didn't mention this at the time - so here we have me, a Jewish guy, and this new neighbor, an Israeli now living in America and happens to move in across the street, well, as I think about all of this, I realize that there is no reason for this person to embellish any of what he told me. He had/has no idea that I post at an all news site. Sooo.....well, what he stated - seems all that more credible to me now, as I think all of this over.

Yes Valin, we should all thank him for this information, but we can't and I won't. He might very well be upset that I've reported what I have and also, he might not speak with me again and also, I won't get anymore information from him. (he says his mother who is still alive, still lives in Israel. He is going back to Israel to visit for three weeks, but I forgot when he said he was going/seems that he said within a month or so. I'm just trying to recall all of the extra details. - - also, let's just all think this over again...there is no reason for this man to exaggerate anything he told me - who am I going to tell? As far as he knows, just another friend or two that I might tell all of this to.
Fyi, in reporting all of this here, perhaps, in some why, all of what I've stated ie. this conversation with this neighbor - might help stop or change - whatever might be coming.
:(

137 posted on 04/15/2002 3:32:11 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
You bet...and did you read that last FR mail I sent you? Very interesting huh. I can't wait!!!
138 posted on 04/15/2002 3:36:01 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: MissAmericanPie
"He can afford to be casual now that he has moved across the street from you. Why do you think he hooked em from Israel?"

Yes, he is glad about this move to the states four years ago. He readily admitted that. He said the software company he works for offered him to choices, the U. S. or Australia. He chose the U. S.

But he is wrong, Jerusalem will never be nuked. I am not sure about the rest of Israel, but I doubt it will be nuked either."

I hope you're right!

"The Muslim world would pitch a fit if it were nuked because if it where there could be no Palestine because of radioactivity,"

Well, unfortunately, he addressed that problem - I asked this same thing about the radiation (and I kinda knew what his answer would be)
and he said something like this:
- "a nuclear strike would come after May of any year - when the trade winds change. :(:(:(:(:(
(this guy knows the topic)

139 posted on 04/15/2002 3:48:48 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
I appreciate the further info- that clarifies it better. Yes, several old comblock nukes would be a severe problem- not only are they probably fairly large, but Russian nukes were infamous for being dirty- or so I have been told.

And yes, our response- more specifically, Israel's enemies perception of our response- will dictate the likelyhood of that first strike taking place.

140 posted on 04/15/2002 3:52:08 PM PDT by backhoe
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