Sick Palestinians die at Israeli checkpoints, unable to get to hospital

AFP

[Destructor]

I agree. The Palestinians are sick!

[DonQ]

Why hasn't the PLO, or even the many Arab oil states that are willing to subsidize its bombers, set up clinics and hospitals in PLO territory, so the Arabs don't have to cross into Jewish territory to get treatment??

[BlueLancer]

And after the Palestinians get their own state (.. yeah, like that's ever really going to happen ..), do they expect to be allowed across a national boundary to use Israeli hospitals? To work in their shops? To shop in their shops?

Hopefully, once the wall goes up, there will only be a triple-barrier of concertina and landmines facing the Palis, with no passages through the fence.

[Tauzero]

"If these 'innocent' people have condoned or supported their murderous terrorist leadership, then they are no less 'innocent' than the German and Japanese civilians during WW2. You pay the consequences for your support or acquienscence.

Next time, choose your leadership more carefully."

At least that's what the 9/11 bombers said.

[Floratina]

Since they have women and children carry out their murders for them, I don't feel bad when I hear that Palestinian women and children are eliminated along with the men. Get rid of them all.

[mgstarr]

At least that's what the 9/11 bombers said

I suppose your post makes sense if you have no concept of right and wrong.
Last I checked, we haven't sent men, women and children on murderous suicide missions.

When your argument isn't moral relativism, please post again.

[crystalk]

My information is that war is hell.

Which are more numerous, the deaths of this type, or of those caused by the homicide bombers getting into Israel when access was more free?

[angry elephant]

If Arafat and other PNA leaders gave a rats arse about the "Palestinian" people they would have invested in schools, infrastructure, democracy and economic growth instead of suicide training centers.

If they hate the Israelis, why are they so desperate to get to their hospitals? They keep saying they want to die for their beliefs, so let them. Israel really needs a wall right away.

[spodefly]

Sick Palestinians are inventing new ways to die every day, and teaching their children the new tricks. This little girl is as much a victim of Arafat as are Israelis killed while shopping.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

So if I refuse to believe stories that are true I could care less

Go for it. We need more lunkheads.

Statistics studies the difficulty of deciding on the basis of incomplete information--"What do we know, and how surely do we know it?"

If your information is incomplete--and yours is, and mine is--then there is some chance that you will be wrong, whatever decision you make. That means you can decide that scrutinizing the 4th and subsequent ambulances for bombs is cruel or you can decide it is lifesaving--but you can be wrong either way.

If you understand that assassins are at work who recruit children to carry bombs into crowds and kill as many people as possible, and if you understand that the Palistinians define themselves as supporting that, then you conclude that they have arranged things so that the decisions of the Israelis will be based on reduced trust. The assassins consider any loss of Palistinian life due to that reduced trust to be at worst "collateral damage"--and perhaps even a propaganda victory.

This would be quite impossible to pull off if democracies were fully sane--but as it is, democracies are swayed by journalists who claim to be objective truthtellers--yet live to report bad news. This makes democracies prone to paranoid delusions.

Delusions such as the conceit that Rodney King was an innocent bystander set upon by cops intent on abusing him because of his color. And that the Israelis intend to conquer the middle east.

[gcruse]

Uhm, if the story is true, and you know that and refuse to believe it, you, sir, are a lunkhead.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

if the story is true, and you know that

If wishes were horses then beggars would ride, sir. As it is, there is actually indication that AP has retracted the story.

But if the story had been true, I would believe it precisely because it fits the circumstances. I put it to you that if you were a doctor and people had been sending ambulance carbombs to hospitals, you would desire--nay, demand--the thorough screening of such vehicles before they put you and your coworkers in mortal peril.

So I would be ready to believe the story, it's plausible, assuming good faith on the part of all the immediate participants. The secuity personnel just following orders, the orders cut to protect the hospital--and the lives of any who might be in critical need of hospital care. But you seem to expect me to impute ill faith to the Israelis. You probably expected me to believe that the children never lie when they have been brainwashed by unscrupulous prosecutors, too.

[pgkdan]

Gee, whata shame. Why don't the savage brutes build their own damn hospitals? Must be too busy biulding bombs to off Israeli civilians.

[gcruse]

I'm typing as slow as I can for you.
You may demolish your straw arguments
ad infinitum.  The fact remains, I repeat::::

Uhm, if the story is true, and you know that
and refuse to believe it, you, sir, are a lunkhead.

BTW, what part of 'if' do you not understand?

[ladyinred]

I was going to say almost exactly what you did. Instead of blaming this on the Jews, blame it on the real culprits, the terrorists who made this necessary!

[RightOnline]

"However, in today’s story, entitled “Relatives of woman who gave birth at Israeli checkpoint say they were not held up by troops,” the AP admitted that the story was false. Israeli soldiers manning the checkpoint had allowed the taxi to pass, Dr. Hamdan lied when he claimed to have been there, and Israel was in no way responsible for the baby’s death.'"

God bless you for digging up and posting the TRUTH.

This article had my blood boiling for a few seconds..........until I ran across your #20. I thought that my fellow FReepers were being overly callous about this.............but they were right. The Palestinians have, yet again, proven to be liars.

Now..............let's talk about the AP's willingness to publish this c**p before checking out the story, shall we??????

[ladyinred]

Thank you so much for posting the truth about the other baby killing Jews story!
Could I detest a group of people more? NO!

[frodolives]

Hear, hear! Don't these "poor" people have very wealthy Arab brothers who could fund hospitals, schools, infrastructure?

[Godel]

The Israelis wouldn't need to stop people on their way to hospitals if the Palestinians weren't constantly trying to sneak in explosives using pregnant women or ambulances. If any Palestinians die as a result of Israeli checkpoints, the blame lies squarely with the Palestinian terrorists. Any suggestion to the contrary is madness. Israelis have a right to defend themselves from being murdered.

If the Palestinians put the blame for these deaths where it belongs, on the terrorists then both sides would be better off and peace would be possible. Somehow though the Arabs think its justified to punch Israel in the face repeatedly, then accuse Israel of wrongdoing when they finally put up their hands to block the brutal assault.

[mrfixit514]

Palestinians: Reap the whirlwind.