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Phila. Teachers Warn About Reforms Predicts Teachers Will Flee Schools
ABC NEWS ^ | April 19 2002 | AP

Posted on 04/19/2002 6:41:34 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

P H I L A D E L P H I A, April 19 — Hundreds of disenchanted teachers are preparing to flee 70 city schools that are to be privatized or otherwise transformed under sweeping reforms planned for the fall, union officials said Friday.

Twenty teachers at the Luis Munoz-Marin School asked for transfers after learning the elementary school would be handed over to a for-profit company, Edison Schools Inc. Another 416 in the system have filed for retirement about a third more than usual.

Jerry Jordan, vice president of the Philadelphia Federation of Teachers, predicted many more will follow suit by the start of the new school year.

"We have been getting an overwhelming number of calls from teachers who are concerned about being able to transfer out of schools being privatized," Jordan said. "They are totally demoralized."

On Wednesday, the city's School Reform Commission said it would privatize 42 of the district's 264 schools and turn them over to nonprofit groups, universities and three for-profit companies, including Edison.

The plan also calls for nine failing schools to be operated by community groups as charter or independent schools. Another 19 would be "reconstituted" which in the past has meant a purge of top administrators and most of a school's teachers.

Many teachers believe the education companies will cut programs and trim staff to make troubled schools profitable. Teachers also argued this week that many of the targeted schools don't deserve to be on the city's takeover list, despite low student test scores.

Joyce Paige, a learning coordinator at the Grover Cleveland Elementary School, said teachers there have already implemented reforms that have made the school into one of the best in the district even though it is in one of the city's poorest areas.

"As far as we are concerned, reconstitution means we didn't do our job. And that is not true," Paige said. "They never came to see what this school was like. They don't know what an excellent staff we have, or how dedicated we are."

The changes are also being made over the objections of Mayor John F. Street, who lost control of the district during a state takeover in December.

Philadelphia's school system, the nation's seventh-largest, has 265 schools and more than 200,000 students and a budget of $1.7 billion. The majority of its students score in the bottom quarter on state reading and math tests and the district has predicted a budget shortfall this year of $107 million.


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1 posted on 04/19/2002 6:41:34 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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Hundreds of disenchanted teachers are preparing to flee 70 city schools that are to be privatized or otherwise transformed under sweeping reforms planned for the fall, union officials said Friday.

And that's a bad thing?

2 posted on 04/19/2002 6:45:36 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: *Education News
index bump
3 posted on 04/19/2002 6:47:03 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Hey....we need to threaten this EVERYWHERE!!!
4 posted on 04/19/2002 6:48:26 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Finally, meaningful change in the public schools.
5 posted on 04/19/2002 6:49:35 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Twenty teachers at the Luis Munoz-Marin School

A public school in Philadelphia named for the former governor of Puerto Rico???!!!

6 posted on 04/19/2002 6:51:34 PM PDT by johniegrad
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Hey....we need to threaten this EVERYWHERE!!! 4 posted on 4/19/02 6:48 PM Pacific by goodnesswins [

DITTO !!

7 posted on 04/19/2002 6:52:25 PM PDT by timestax
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Let's all say "GOOD RIDDANCE"!!!
8 posted on 04/19/2002 6:53:03 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Bet the DMV is flooded with teachers applying for jobs.
9 posted on 04/19/2002 6:54:27 PM PDT by LarryLied
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Ahhh, so only those who are truly dedicated and those who really need the job will be left. A win-win situation.
10 posted on 04/19/2002 6:55:04 PM PDT by skr
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...And that's a bad thing?

Ummm...yes. That is a bad thing! .... For unions. Less slush cash for the coffers. All in all, a very bad thing to lose dues paying members. You did notice they didn't mention that it was particularly bad for the kids.

11 posted on 04/19/2002 6:59:33 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Jeez, disempowering the corrupters of children. Spoiled creeps who work 180 days a years, out at 3PM, get a sabbatical off an entire year with pay, tenured. The only groups more loathsome are lawyers, bureaucrats, and incarcerated sociopaths.

What a shame.

Buh Bye, guys. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

12 posted on 04/19/2002 7:01:34 PM PDT by friendly
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I have to admit, I don't know very much about theses for-profit outfits but I do know that one of them, I think it was Edison, uses a top notch reading/phonics program that can virtually guarentee children will not suffer from learned diabilities. Can anyone elaborated on the record of these for-profit outfits?
13 posted on 04/19/2002 7:06:13 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Philadelphia's school system, the nation's seventh-largest, has 265 schools and more than 200,000 students and a budget of $1.7 billion.

Okay. I like to do the math. The math says that Philadelphia's school system spends $8,100+ per student.
And these are the results:

The majority of its students score in the bottom quarter on state reading and math tests and the district has predicted a budget shortfall this year of $107 million.

And this pathetic pack of teachers union scum has the gall to insist on keeping the status quo?
These crybabies should get "transferred" right out of their jobs.

14 posted on 04/19/2002 7:06:24 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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"We have been getting an overwhelming number of calls from teachers who are concerned about being able to transfer out of schools being privatized," Jordan said. "They are totally demoralized."

Rats leaving the sinking ship.....

Note also the budget numbers: $1.7 billion annually, for 200,000 students, um..... let's see, carry the seven, .... um, $8500/student/year spent by the Philly school system. Guess they can't blame their poor performance on a lack of funding, can they?

15 posted on 04/19/2002 7:10:00 PM PDT by longshadow
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" .. um..... let's see, carry the seven, .... um, $8500/student/year spent by the Philly school system. Guess they can't blame their poor performance on a lack of funding, can they?"

We home school three kids ... 11th grade, 5th grade and second grade. One is already out of school and on her own.
When we started, about seven or eight years ago, it cost us about 4 or 5 hundred bucks per.

Now, because of the internet and various homeschool groups, I think our cost is about a hundred each. Most of that is paper, ink and two scanners/copiers a year.

I want my reparations!!!!

16 posted on 04/19/2002 7:19:48 PM PDT by knarf
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To: friendly
come on there are some very good dedicated teachers out there...it is a great thing that the leches are leaving, bring in new blood.
17 posted on 04/19/2002 7:19:53 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
"They are totally demoralized."......They don't know what an excellent staff we have, or how dedicated we are."

They are demoralized by the reform and NOT by the dismal failure of the system they are now a part of??

Well it's apparent that being dedicated means ZILCH as far as performance is concerned.. AND they are totally disillusioned if they believe they have an excellent staff .. apparently NOT!

18 posted on 04/19/2002 7:21:04 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Hundreds of disenchanted teachers are preparing to flee 70 city schools that are to be privatized or otherwise transformed under sweeping reforms planned for the fall, union officials said Friday.

Looks like the plan is working straight away. I would like to see this and similar approaches spead throughout the country. It is unfortunate that things have to get SOOOO bad, that the incompetents ruin the lives of so many, before corrective action is demanded by the public. Here in Kalifornia the downward spiral has been under way for at least twenty years. Education has movbed from substantial subjects (e.g. the three R's and the sciences) to social indoctrination. High school graduates can't tell you what twenty percent of one hundred is, but they are sure that we should'nt drill in ANWR. It's just despicable.

The school system here is VERY well funded. But many schools are in disrepair and ill-equipped. Many teachers are unqualified and under-payed. A large and growiung share of funding goes to the large and growing staff middle managers. And these are the ones who are defining the socialist curriculum. And when test scores shine light on the problem, their answer is to "dumb down" the tests (under some murky logic about differences in cultures affecting performance, blah blah blah). Oh, students have great self-esteem, but they don't know how to think. As a hiring manager I see this ALL the time. It's going to take a lot to turn this mess around. Competition (against the government schools)in the education business is a must.

19 posted on 04/19/2002 7:24:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Maybe they'll hire real teachers in their place.
20 posted on 04/19/2002 7:29:49 PM PDT by PianoMan
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