Posted on 4/21/02 8:24 PM Eastern by Dr. Brian Kopp
Axiom 2.
Unchecked dissent since Vatican II allowed homosexual priests to abuse our children.
I make these statements in light of efforts by pro-homosexual groups to keep these axioms from the public, realizing that the truth is getting out that there is a direct correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia. Reference the following from The Catholic Education Resource Center Website (see this FR Thread)regarding a myth about priestly pedophilia.
Myth: Homosexuality isn't connected to pedophilia.
This is plainly false. Homosexuals are three times as likely to be pedophiles as heterosexual men. Although exclusive pedophilia (adult attraction to prepubescent children) is an extreme and rare phenomenon, one third of homosexual men are attracted to teenage boys (Jenkins, Priests and Pedophilia). The seduction of teenage boys by homosexual men is a well-documented phenomenon. This form of deviant behavior is the most common type of clerical abuse and is directly connected to homosexual behavior.
As Michael Rose shows in his upcoming book, Goodbye! Good Men, there's an active homosexual sub-culture within the Church. This is due to several factors. 1)The Church's confusion in the wake of the sexual revolution of the 1960s, 2)the tumult following the Second Vatican Council, 3)and the greater approval of homosexual behavior in the culture at large created an environment in which active homosexual men were admitted to and tolerated in the priesthood.
The Church also came to rely more on the psychiatric profession for screening candidates and for treating those priests identified as having problems. In 1973, the American Psychological Association changed its characterization of homosexuality as an objectively disordered orientation and removed it from the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual IV (Nicolosi, J., 1991, Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality, 1991; Diamond, E., et. al., Homosexuality and Hope, unpublished CMA document). The treatment of deviant sexual behaviors followed suit.
While the Church's approach to those who struggle with homosexual attractions has been compassionate, she has been consistent in maintaining the view that homosexuality is objectively disordered and that marriage between a man and woman is the proper context for sexual activity.
When you openly embrace homosexuality, such as some of our seminaries did, the results that we're seeing in the daily news can be expected, which brings us to the third and most important axiom.
Axiom 3.
Knowingly ordaining men inclined to homosexuality to the priesthood is sacrilegious blasphemy because these individuals openly flaunt the teachings of Christ, and as such, are not qualified to be acting as an "alter Christus, in persona Christi" (another Christ, in the person of Christ), which is what a consecrated Catholic priest is supposed to do.
What kind of an example are we giving to the Faithful by a violation of axiom 3? Anyone needing to spend longer than a millisecond answering this question is NOT Catholic.
These are some thoughts a friend here in my diocese shared with me this weekend. This friend corroborated with Michael Rose regarding the pro-homosexual psychologist who does the intake interviews for our seminarians. I think his comments here are worth consideration.
1 posted on 4/21/02 8:24 PM Eastern by Dr. Brian Kopp
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This does not serve the anti-celibacy, pro-homosexual agenda of the mainstream media. Homosexuals are not interested in marrying women. Thus the need to refocus the sheeple (and the homosexual activists will be supplying the necessary propaganda, as noted above):
Expect to see a subtle but definite shift in media tactics to recast this as a genderless crisis, ie, expect many more reports on heterosexual sins to cloud the clarity seeping into the grassroots understanding that this is indeed a homosexual chickenhawk problem, at least in the western church.
The people who are threatening to leave the Church because of this scandal, or to stop putting money in the collection plate, are mostly already on the fringe of the Church, with uncertain faith, who probably don't attend Mass regularly anyway.
Basically, the media establishment is trying to blame traditional, "conservative" forces in the Church for problems that are almost entirely due to liberal dissenters, who have pushed for loosening up the rules in the seminaries. If the bishops failed to control the situation earlier, it was not because they were following any Catholic principles. It was mostly because they feared offending the very same liberal press that is attacking them now. If this crisis results in the bishops tightening up sexual morality in their dioceses, that is all to the good. After all, it's what the Church already teaches and has always taught.
< sarcasm>Remember, homosexuals NEVER do anything wrong < /sarcasm>
When it is sex with a minor it is a Homosexual Felony.
When the abuser is a Homosexual Priest it is no less a crime and must be punished.
When the Hierarchy enables Homosexual Felonies they are as guilty as the Abuser,and maybe they are Homosexuals also.
The answer is Purge and Purification of the church.
It sounds like you are speaking only about active homosexuals in this axiom. I think you need to consider another side to this as well.
Admitting to the priesthood those inclined toward the homosexual disorder, even if they have not acted upon this inclination and do not intend to do so, is also a problem. Admitting them to the priesthood places such men in positions of extraordinary temptation, challenging their chastity and endangering their spiritual life. Due to the central role of a priest in the spiritual lives of others, should they find themselves unable to resist their temptations, they are likely to damage or destroy the spiritual lives of many more than themselves alone.
What this leads to is the notion that the Church should not knowingly admit men to the priesthood if they are inclined toward homosexuality, whether or not they intend to act upon these inclinations. That seems to be a taboo conclusion in our modern era, but I think it is the correct one.
There will be a short term crunch if they screen at the seminaries..but it must be done.IMO
Do you think increasing the number of Deacons to take up the slack for a few years will help...manpower is an issue..but the level of homosexuality has become painfully obvious ...(I would vote for married priests ..but an increase in Deacons couls be a good stop gap)
Which still means that most of them aren't!
You forgot to mention that men are more likely to be pedophiles than women.
I really take offense to the fact and while you may be able to contain yourself 95% of men out there will take a gander if a girl if she even remotely looks 18.. of course as the smart people we are we muster only "they let kids wear that kinda stuff these days?" or something to that effect. None the less to assume attraction ='s pedphilla is ludricious at best.
Also it should be noted that homosexuality or the acts of it are sometimes a crime of oppertunity more than anything. It has been well documented in Afghanstan that under Taliban rule many men actually had homosexual relations because it was easier to get away with having sex with a man than it was a woman.. in fact one man blamed the fact he couldn't see women's faces and he wanted to sleep with beautiful people.. regardless if think he's reasoning is bs or not it's still a matter of fact that these situations arise out of oppertunity more than any correlation between sexual orientation and pedaphilla.
Gee, you'd almost think these things were related somehow!
That's it, Homos. Continue to attack the messenger just as you successfully did with AIDS. As chronicled in detail in Bernard Goldberg's recent book Bias, the media entered into a devil's deal with the Homosexual lobby to put forth the grand myth of "heterosexual AIDS." Even to this day AIDS is almost exclusively a disease of the homosexual population, and those few heterosexuals who contract the virus do so from having sex with men who have had sex with other men.
So now, we've got to chide the media for leaving even the merest impression that there is a "link" between homosexuality and paedophilia.
Oh, the link is plainly there, but it's "bad politics" to announce it. So let's jump on the media, we know they'll listen to our arguments and desist.
Hmm, assuming you assert that about 1% of the male population is homosexual, that means there are 100 times more hetero than homo males.
If homos are three times as likely as heteros to be pedophiles, that means that
I suggest you start worrying about the major source of the problem.
I confirms what I already suspected.