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To: Alberta's Child
They have no reason to repent in this case -- in fact, history will remember that they were the ones who knew all along that post-Vatican II Catholicism was largely a fraud.

Amen. Sing it, brother.

But Michael Novak and his Neo-Cath buddies want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to preserve the 90 percent of VatII that have led us to this terrible situation and get rid of the 10 percent that embarasses them. They are not capable of pointing out the obvious: the "reforms" of VatII have destroyed the Church. Compare 2,000 years of Church history to the past 40 years. Enough said.

28 posted on 04/24/2002 11:48:31 AM PDT by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
Ironically, many of the "reforms" of Vatican II will end up saving the Church. I've heard countless stories from grandparents, etc. about the problems they had with authoritarian, overbearing priests who lorded over their parishioners.

The latter half of the 20th Century was probably the first time in history that the Church laity was more competent, more capable, and more educated than the clergy. While there are potential pitfalls, this presents a marvelous opportunity for the Church.

I predict that the diocesan structure of the Church will slowly disappear, and will be replaced by something similar to what Tom Monaghan (founder of Domino's Pizza) has done in Michigan. He built his own church, built his own schools (including a Catholic law school), and brought in an order of priests and nuns to staff the facilities.

When the local bishop called him to complain that Monaghan had no authority to do this things without the bishop's permission, Monaghan asked the bishop who the f#ck he thought he was, told him to f#ck himself and everyone else who worked in his chancery office, and told him that people like him (the bishop) were irrelevant fools and that the real faith was being preserved (and spread) by people who really matter.

Case closed. Monaghan's chuch and schools are still standing, and the local bishop is sitting around wondering how many assets his diocese will still have left after all the sex abuse lawsuits are adjudicated.

30 posted on 04/24/2002 11:59:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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