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Phila. policy is to screen for gays [sic]
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 4-23-2002 | Jim Remsen

Posted on 04/23/2002 2:49:14 PM PDT by Notwithstanding







Posted on Tue, Apr. 23, 2002


Phila. policy is to screen for gays


Inquirer Staff Writer
As the sexual-abuse scandal buffets the Roman Catholic Church, some leading conservatives in the church have urged that all seminaries screen out homosexual candidates for the priesthood.

Such a policy has long been in effect in the Philadelphia Archdiocese.

The archdiocese rejects candidates for the priesthood who acknowledge they are gay, even if they say they intend to remain celibate, archdiocesan officials say.

Further, St. Charles Borromeo Seminary, the archdiocesan school for priests, summarily expels any seminarian found to be homosexually active.

It was not immediately known how many dioceses across the nation have such a ban. But experts said the Philadelphia policy appears to be relatively rare.

The "zero-tolerance" policy was a response to concern that gay seminarians might undermine an all-male seminary, distorting its mission, according to Msgr. Michael Burbidge, the director of St. Charles.

The policy has been in effect for at least 13 years, since Cardinal Anthony J. Bevilacqua became head of the Philadelphia Archdiocese. It does not reflect worry that homosexual men were more prone to sexually abuse church members, Msgr. Burbidge said in recent interviews.

While the Philadelphia policy is not new, it puts the archdiocese in accord with powerful church conservatives who have been calling in recent days for all seminaries to screen out homosexuals.

"People with these inclinations just cannot be ordained," Joaquin Navarro-Valls, spokesman for Pope John Paul II and one of the most powerful of the conservatives, said last month.

Navarro-Valls suggested that ordinations of gay priests be nullified, as marriages are annulled.

Gay-screening proposals will be on the agenda of the papal summit that begins at the Vatican today.

Mary Louise Cervone, president of the gay Catholic group Dignity USA, disagreed with the Philadelphia policy.

She and leaders of other gay-rights groups say that gays were being scapegoated by those who have linked abuse cases to homosexuality.

The conservatives say that the much of the public debate over the scandal has erred in describing the abuse as cases of pedophilia.

In fact, the conservatives say, pedophilia is the term for a sexual desire for prepubescent children. But they say that the scandal has primarily involved same-sex incidents with post-pubescent teenagers. This predominance, they say, is caused by the presence of gay priests.

In a wide-ranging interview about St. Charles' screening and training methods, Msgr. Burbidge, the rector there, said the seminary's policy had been in effect since at least 1988, when Cardinal Bevilacqua became archbishop.

Along with seeking to screen out gays, the archdiocese also attempts to identify personality traits. But, Phillip J. Miraglia, a psychologist who is St. Charles' screening consultant, said he was not certain he has ever weeded out a pedophile in his two decades of screening.

"I'm a lot better at weeding out psychosis, depression, anxiety, obsessive-compulsive, than I am at suggesting specific sexual distortion," he said. "The instruments just aren't good for that."

Msgr. Burbidge said that priesthood candidates are asked early on if they are gay.

Should a man answer unequivocally in the affirmative, he said, "then he would not be a candidate."

Msgr. Burbidge said the bar applies even if a candidate said he intended to be chaste, or as the monsignor put it, "whether he's acting out or not."

Most of the nation's 35 other Catholic seminaries do not have as stringent a policy, said Frederick S. Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University psychiatrist who is a consultant to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

He has discussed the issue with church officials around the country, he said yesterday.

"The predominant feedback is that as long as it's simply an orientation and people are not acting on it, most don't feel it's an issue," Berlin said.

Homosexuality is a delicate topic for the church, with many researchers agreeing that gays are widespread in the nation's priesthood. The church's catechism says that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered" because gay sex does not lead to reproduction.

St. Charles has "zero tolerance" of homosexual activity, Msgr. Burbidge said, and his 162 seminarians are instructed to report any violations.

"If we would discover anything like that, we would act on it immediately" through dismissal, the rector said.

In addition, he said, Cardinal Bevilacqua tells the seminarians as a group "that if that is their orientation, they have an obligation to the church to come forward and say they are no longer a candidate."

No one has come forward in his three years as rector. Nor is he aware of students reporting any infractions in that time.

Much of the weeding-out of candidates, Msgr. Burbidge said yesterday, occurs during initial interviews with the Rev. Joseph Devlin, the archdiocese's director of vocations.

"Someone might say, 'I'm gay, but I could be a good priest.' His response would be, 'You are not a candidate.' Without a doubt."

Father Devlin did not return calls for comment yesterday.

At St. Charles, Msgr. Burbidge said leeway would be granted to a seminarian who admitted to suddenly being attracted to a classmate - as long as he had not acted on it.

"We might offer some insight-oriented counseling to see what it is," he said. "Because it may not be a homosexual-defined orientation. It just may be a confusion."

"Or they can talk to me about it," said Miraglia, "It's private, in therapy. . . . There are a lot of ways to talk about this without having to run up a red flag before the administration."

Miraglia said that in his 20 years of work with St. Charles, only "a low number" of seminarians had come to him for private counseling on gay issues, and none at present.

Miraglia and Msgr. Burbidge made their comments earlier this month as they sat in the palatial main building of the seminary grounds in Wynnewood. Miraglia has been screening applicants for the school since 1983, conducting a battery of "multitrait, multimethod matrix" tests on at least 500 candidates in that period.

In an interview yesterday, Miraglia said "probably less than 5 percent" of the applicants tell him they are gay, "but if they say, I always tell" the seminary.

He said he's never gotten a directive from the archdiocese to zero in on homosexuality as a risk factor.

The primary aim of his five-hour regimen of tests, he said, is to screen out people "with a lot of underlying conflicts," most of them heterosexual, and recommend "developmentally appropriate" candidates.

In the course of his testing, Miraglia also asks directly about sexual attraction to children, or pedophilia.

"I'll tell you, no one has said yes," he said. "But I am putting them on record as the consulting psychologist that this is important and we want to know about it. You've got to tell me the truth or lie to me, but it's in my records and notes."

Miraglia said the psychological testing, done in addition to background checks, allows him to "make some inferences about how comfortable a person is with their general sexuality" and assess such traits as "psychosocial maturity, psychosexual maturity, impulsivity and tolerance for frustration."

He said his review of one two-year period (1991-92) showed that he had recommended rejection of 16 percent of the 68 people he tested.

Miraglia's battery - which Msgr. Burbidge called "pretty standard" among seminaries - was last revised in 1997 and will be evaluated by the professional panel that the archdiocese has convened to review its sex-abuse procedures.

"Any new candidate we get from this point probably will be stronger than ever," said Msgr. Burbidge, who entered St. Charles in 1976.

"Because they are not going here because everybody's applauding them for this decision. They will be looked on suspiciously, and in midst of that they are stepping forward. That takes a lot more courage than I needed."


Contact Jim Remsen at 215-854-5621 or jremsen@phillynews.com.




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1 posted on 04/23/2002 2:49:15 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
What the Media Has Kept Quiet:

Catholic Church said to be struggling to keep homosexuals out

The head of the US episcopal conference Wilton Daniel Gregory said there was an ongoing struggle within the Catholic Church to ensure that the priesthood is not "dominated by homosexual men".

Gregory and Chicago Archbishop, Cardinal Francis George, told reporters that the issue of homosexual priests had been discussed in a solemn morning meeting between Pope John Paul II and US cardinals on the issue of paedophile priests.

"It is an ongoing struggle. It is most importantly a struggle to make sure that the Catholic priesthood is not dominated by homosexual men," Gregory told a news conference after the first session of talks which are to last until Wednesday.

"Not only that it is not dominated by homosexual men, but that the candidates we receive are healthy in every possible way, psychologically, emotionally, spiritually, intellectually."

"That is the ongoing concern of seminaries."

2 posted on 04/23/2002 2:51:50 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
Stealth is something these people will try. V's wife.
3 posted on 04/23/2002 2:53:59 PM PDT by ventana
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To: ventana
Stealth is something these people will try.

Obviously.

The question raised by this article is a comparison of sexual abuse cases from graduates of St. Charles, as opposed to those from other seminaries. With 500+ graduates, it should be possible to do a statistically significant test.

4 posted on 04/23/2002 2:59:08 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: ventana
Gay and pedophilic priests will return to the closet-- where they can secretly feed on fresh meat.
5 posted on 04/23/2002 3:01:59 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: ventana
Why the [sic] in the title? Because "gay" is a faux word with a faux meaning. The Phila. Church screens out men who have the orientation to be sexually attracted to men.

"Gay" is a modern word used to describe sick empty men who keep pretending that sex with other men is the key to happiness - and that they are indeed happy. If orgasms were the key to happiness there would be a hell of a lot more sex going on - and a hell of a lot more outwardly happy people. The word "gay" masks the reality that campy slutty effeminate bubbly males are actually like all sluts: miserable.

6 posted on 04/23/2002 3:02:08 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
HOW DARE THEY DISCRIMINATE! THIS IS ABOUT CELIBACY, NOT HOMESEXUALITY. REPEAT. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOMESEXUALITY! THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE. THESE AREN'T THE DROIDS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. MOVE ALONG.
7 posted on 04/23/2002 3:21:48 PM PDT by montag813
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To: ventana; let freedom sing
Some will return to the closet, others have obviously been screened out and kept away from the priesthood, so there is some success there. Regardless, there won't be an open gay culture at the seminary, if any gay culture at all. The result is that fewer hetersexual men are driven away, any gays who do slip through are alone, they are not alowed to network and the like, and as a result are much less dangerous. This is good to see, IMHO, its a step in the right direction.

patent

8 posted on 04/23/2002 3:24:03 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
Place a rug outside the entrance of every seminary.

No discernable footprints, no admittance to the seminary.

9 posted on 04/23/2002 3:38:52 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Notwithstanding
6:00 world news just showed a priest that met in Rome saying the priesthood is dominated by homosexual men. This is good news. Finally, there's light within the church!
10 posted on 04/23/2002 3:40:14 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: montag813
HOW DARE THEY DISCRIMINATE!

The Bible, Freedom of Religion.
Let the homosexuals create their own houses of Satan...er....churches.
Instead of teaching the Holy word, they can teach fisting classes or something. It might get them away from the public school kids and the alter boys.

11 posted on 04/23/2002 3:46:00 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Notwithstanding
When this whole scandal dies down in a couple of years, and people have been exposed and expelled, I want to see the facts, in numbers.

I want to see what the total number of priests expelled due to sex with anybody underage. Then I want to see the number of priests expelled for having sex with teenage girls, teenage boys, girls under 12, and boys under 12.

I will make a nice little pie chart, showing visually the proportions.

My guess is that the percentage of expulsions by priests who had sex with teenage boys will be 90% of the total.

Wonder if USA Today will put this little pie chart on their front page? And monkeys might fly out of my butt.

12 posted on 04/23/2002 4:07:52 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: ken5050; Slyfox; rose; ClearBlueSky; Aunt Polgara; Codie; ELS; katnip;viadexter; pax_et_bonum...
A ping for Cardinal Bevilacqua and Philadelphia.

"A candle is never diminished by the darkness. Take heart." -- Cardinal Bevilacqua.

13 posted on 04/23/2002 4:19:23 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: history_matters
Why that was ever not the national policy is part of the ongoing problem. They need to be careful though in relying on modern psychological and psychiatric methods for developing candidate profiles. These can be deceptive. Interviews by competent Catholics, character assessment by non-homosexual Catholics, and background checks should be sufficient. Would...uh...Fulton Sheen, Thomas Becket, or Ignatius Loyola have passed psychological screening and testing. One wonders...
14 posted on 04/23/2002 4:28:34 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Notwithstanding
Further, St. Charles Borromeo Seminary, the archdiocesan school for priests, summarily expels any seminarian found to be homosexually active.

St. Charles has "zero tolerance" of homosexual activity, Msgr. Burbidge said, and his 162 seminarians are instructed to report any violations.

I believe this is where Mother Angelica sends her seminarians !

15 posted on 04/23/2002 4:33:14 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Notwithstanding
Well there is at least one cardinal who has his act together
16 posted on 04/23/2002 4:58:15 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: r9etb
While they are trying to screen carefully(or maybe not so carefully, who knows?) there still is the problem of gay priests ordained in Philly prior to this screening. Remember this whole debacle started way, way back.
17 posted on 04/23/2002 5:01:13 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: history_matters
Bravo Bevilacqua!
18 posted on 04/23/2002 5:33:13 PM PDT by ELS
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To: Notwithstanding
Frankly, I cannot understand the "struggle" the Catholic church is having keeping out sexual deviants. The Bible is very clear on the subject of adultery, homosexuality, and other immoral sex acts. Here is a very easy to understand web site link that explains clearly and briefly what the Bible says about homosexuality. Share this info with anyone who has not read the Bible and/or doesn't understand the Bible.

BIBLE ANSWERS: "HOMOSEXUALITY"

19 posted on 04/23/2002 6:03:10 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: MonroeDNA
My guess is that the percentage of expulsions by priests who had sex with teenage boys will be 90% of the total.

And monkeys might fly out of my butt.

Not until you remove your head, Einstein.

20 posted on 04/23/2002 6:32:49 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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