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Phila. policy is to screen for gays [sic]
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 4-23-2002 | Jim Remsen

Posted on 04/23/2002 2:49:14 PM PDT by Notwithstanding

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1 posted on 04/23/2002 2:49:15 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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What the Media Has Kept Quiet:

Catholic Church said to be struggling to keep homosexuals out

The head of the US episcopal conference Wilton Daniel Gregory said there was an ongoing struggle within the Catholic Church to ensure that the priesthood is not "dominated by homosexual men".

Gregory and Chicago Archbishop, Cardinal Francis George, told reporters that the issue of homosexual priests had been discussed in a solemn morning meeting between Pope John Paul II and US cardinals on the issue of paedophile priests.

"It is an ongoing struggle. It is most importantly a struggle to make sure that the Catholic priesthood is not dominated by homosexual men," Gregory told a news conference after the first session of talks which are to last until Wednesday.

"Not only that it is not dominated by homosexual men, but that the candidates we receive are healthy in every possible way, psychologically, emotionally, spiritually, intellectually."

"That is the ongoing concern of seminaries."

2 posted on 04/23/2002 2:51:50 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
Stealth is something these people will try. V's wife.
3 posted on 04/23/2002 2:53:59 PM PDT by ventana
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To: ventana
Stealth is something these people will try.

Obviously.

The question raised by this article is a comparison of sexual abuse cases from graduates of St. Charles, as opposed to those from other seminaries. With 500+ graduates, it should be possible to do a statistically significant test.

4 posted on 04/23/2002 2:59:08 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: ventana
Gay and pedophilic priests will return to the closet-- where they can secretly feed on fresh meat.
5 posted on 04/23/2002 3:01:59 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: ventana
Why the [sic] in the title? Because "gay" is a faux word with a faux meaning. The Phila. Church screens out men who have the orientation to be sexually attracted to men.

"Gay" is a modern word used to describe sick empty men who keep pretending that sex with other men is the key to happiness - and that they are indeed happy. If orgasms were the key to happiness there would be a hell of a lot more sex going on - and a hell of a lot more outwardly happy people. The word "gay" masks the reality that campy slutty effeminate bubbly males are actually like all sluts: miserable.

6 posted on 04/23/2002 3:02:08 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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HOW DARE THEY DISCRIMINATE! THIS IS ABOUT CELIBACY, NOT HOMESEXUALITY. REPEAT. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOMESEXUALITY! THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE. THESE AREN'T THE DROIDS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. MOVE ALONG.
7 posted on 04/23/2002 3:21:48 PM PDT by montag813
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Some will return to the closet, others have obviously been screened out and kept away from the priesthood, so there is some success there. Regardless, there won't be an open gay culture at the seminary, if any gay culture at all. The result is that fewer hetersexual men are driven away, any gays who do slip through are alone, they are not alowed to network and the like, and as a result are much less dangerous. This is good to see, IMHO, its a step in the right direction.

patent

8 posted on 04/23/2002 3:24:03 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
Place a rug outside the entrance of every seminary.

No discernable footprints, no admittance to the seminary.

9 posted on 04/23/2002 3:38:52 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Notwithstanding
6:00 world news just showed a priest that met in Rome saying the priesthood is dominated by homosexual men. This is good news. Finally, there's light within the church!
10 posted on 04/23/2002 3:40:14 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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HOW DARE THEY DISCRIMINATE!

The Bible, Freedom of Religion.
Let the homosexuals create their own houses of Satan...er....churches.
Instead of teaching the Holy word, they can teach fisting classes or something. It might get them away from the public school kids and the alter boys.

11 posted on 04/23/2002 3:46:00 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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When this whole scandal dies down in a couple of years, and people have been exposed and expelled, I want to see the facts, in numbers.

I want to see what the total number of priests expelled due to sex with anybody underage. Then I want to see the number of priests expelled for having sex with teenage girls, teenage boys, girls under 12, and boys under 12.

I will make a nice little pie chart, showing visually the proportions.

My guess is that the percentage of expulsions by priests who had sex with teenage boys will be 90% of the total.

Wonder if USA Today will put this little pie chart on their front page? And monkeys might fly out of my butt.

12 posted on 04/23/2002 4:07:52 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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A ping for Cardinal Bevilacqua and Philadelphia.

"A candle is never diminished by the darkness. Take heart." -- Cardinal Bevilacqua.

13 posted on 04/23/2002 4:19:23 PM PDT by history_matters
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Why that was ever not the national policy is part of the ongoing problem. They need to be careful though in relying on modern psychological and psychiatric methods for developing candidate profiles. These can be deceptive. Interviews by competent Catholics, character assessment by non-homosexual Catholics, and background checks should be sufficient. Would...uh...Fulton Sheen, Thomas Becket, or Ignatius Loyola have passed psychological screening and testing. One wonders...
14 posted on 04/23/2002 4:28:34 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Further, St. Charles Borromeo Seminary, the archdiocesan school for priests, summarily expels any seminarian found to be homosexually active.

St. Charles has "zero tolerance" of homosexual activity, Msgr. Burbidge said, and his 162 seminarians are instructed to report any violations.

I believe this is where Mother Angelica sends her seminarians !

15 posted on 04/23/2002 4:33:14 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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Well there is at least one cardinal who has his act together
16 posted on 04/23/2002 4:58:15 PM PDT by uncbob
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While they are trying to screen carefully(or maybe not so carefully, who knows?) there still is the problem of gay priests ordained in Philly prior to this screening. Remember this whole debacle started way, way back.
17 posted on 04/23/2002 5:01:13 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: history_matters
Bravo Bevilacqua!
18 posted on 04/23/2002 5:33:13 PM PDT by ELS
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To: Notwithstanding
Frankly, I cannot understand the "struggle" the Catholic church is having keeping out sexual deviants. The Bible is very clear on the subject of adultery, homosexuality, and other immoral sex acts. Here is a very easy to understand web site link that explains clearly and briefly what the Bible says about homosexuality. Share this info with anyone who has not read the Bible and/or doesn't understand the Bible.

BIBLE ANSWERS: "HOMOSEXUALITY"

19 posted on 04/23/2002 6:03:10 PM PDT by Cindy
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My guess is that the percentage of expulsions by priests who had sex with teenage boys will be 90% of the total.

And monkeys might fly out of my butt.

Not until you remove your head, Einstein.

20 posted on 04/23/2002 6:32:49 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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