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Mark Steyn: The Eurosnots learn nothing
National Post (Canada) ^ | 04/26/2002 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/26/2002 5:31:50 AM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
"If the political culture forbids respectable politicians from raising certain topics, then the electorate will turn to unrespectable politicians -- as they're doing in France, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark and elsewhere. Le Pen is not an aberration but the logical consequence."

This is exactly what PC tries to do and succeeds on campus and in many corporations. You demonize and if possible, criminalize certain ideas.

When you outlaw ideas, only outlaws will have ideas.

41 posted on 04/26/2002 7:18:59 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: backhoe
Backhoe, you need a new compute, I cannot believe you pieced together all that and got it to work!! I have some simm stackers we never used (we have been building systems since '84) they are for 30 pin simms.

I just checked where we keep all the old stuff and we have two motherboards and various cards with them. One of them has 200 cpu on it. Send me freep mail, I will tell you what I have and for shipping I will send you some of this, its you or the Goodwill!

42 posted on 04/26/2002 7:30:58 AM PDT by thirst4truth
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To: backhoe
Wow, sounds like you're havin' fun with that "Heinz 57!" LOL! :O)
Good job!.........
43 posted on 04/26/2002 7:32:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Pokey78
Le Pen is neither rightwing nor conservative. He certainly would be no friend of the United States.

Steyn is completely on target again, and I think he has a better grasp of European politics than Europeans do.

The Eurosnots are going to lose control as the extent of their failed policies becomes evident to ordinary citizens. We can only hope that their replacements are men and women in the Margaret Thatcher mold rather than in the Adolph Hitler mold.

44 posted on 04/26/2002 7:34:10 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MeeknMing
"Fun" isn't quite the word ( I'm back at the, ahem! better PC.....)-- I think I started that little salvage project back in January and it really wasn't decent until a few weeks ago when I found an old IBM in what we call the GarryShack ( yes, like CaddyShack, it's an inside joke at my wife's office- her old, detestable boss had a shed full of what he thought was valuable computer parts but really is mostly worthless junk... ) and got a drive big enough to hold more than the bare OS and IE 3.01.

I guess "challenging" would be more apt....

45 posted on 04/26/2002 7:40:55 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Pokey78
This was a great one! A ping for Steyn.
46 posted on 04/26/2002 7:42:38 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Pokey78
Europe is gone. The rot from within is so severe that the Islamics aren't going to have to bother over-running the place. Europe is becoming the 21st century's dark continent.
47 posted on 04/26/2002 7:45:47 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: toddst; Pokey78
Exporting of immigrants IS a big deal solution on the minds of many Frenchmen, apparently. This is one to watch.

It is particularly dangerous for the United States of America because in the open suppurating absess infested with impossible-to-assimilate French speaking islamanazis -- the product of the open sewer immigration policy [No "Francophone may be refused entry!] created; in the Quebec Province of the unfriendly little country [Check its un voting record!] to our North; by the now, thank God, dead manifestation of Evil called Pierre Trudeaux; there is a well established Trojan Horse from whose bowels spew forth the excrement programmed to destroy Our Beloved FRaternal Republic and the Judeo-Christian/Western ["Human," that is] Civilization that we we vanguard.

48 posted on 04/26/2002 7:47:16 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: jla
So, when are the "Eurosnots" in Ireland going to elect a PD as Taoiseach?

Okay, a little OT, but, how do you pronounce "Taoiseach"?

49 posted on 04/26/2002 7:48:00 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Brian Allen
Pierre Trudeau
50 posted on 04/26/2002 7:48:32 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: backhoe
:O) "Are we havin' 'fun' yet??"
51 posted on 04/26/2002 7:49:38 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Pokey78
Steyn BUMP
52 posted on 04/26/2002 7:50:34 AM PDT by RippleFire
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To: kikero
ping!
53 posted on 04/26/2002 7:51:14 AM PDT by diotima
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To: LibertarianLiz;Happygal
Okay, a little OT, but, how do you pronounce "Taoiseach"?

Tee-Shock
Right, Happygal?

54 posted on 04/26/2002 7:57:27 AM PDT by jla
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To: hang 'em
Or an Atari! Seriously, at one point it had DOS 6.22 and "Arachne" as a browser, so it is now better than that!
55 posted on 04/26/2002 7:57:45 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Pokey78
polities destined to slip down the Eurinal of history

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha... *cough* *sputter* *gasp for breath* *wipe up coffee* ...hahahahahahahahahahaha!

56 posted on 04/26/2002 8:01:21 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Pokey78
Could you ping me for articles by him as well?

This guy is razor sharp.

Thanks,

knews hound

57 posted on 04/26/2002 8:04:54 AM PDT by knews_hound
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To: Pokey78
Dear Pokey,

I loved this article.

I'm writing from France now, we've been here around 8 months. Everything he says here is so true, it's hard to believe that he's not living here to be so incisive.

Chirac is so elitist that it oozes from his voice, it's sickening.

I've lived in the 'banlieu' (suburbs) and Paris. Outside Paris is the worst.

And not just the Jews, the Arabs have made much of it UNBEARABLE for the average frenchman.

I was encouraged by the high percentage that Le Pen garnered. (Although I may be one of the first thrown out!) It showed that the French are willing to give the police some 'teeth', and they see clearly their country slipping away from them.

I lived here 20 years ago, and it's unbelievable how it has deteriated. It's FILTHY, and unpleasant. (let's not speak about the dog.... situation)

My hope was that Chirac would have a little humility and learn something from the French voters' message;... but alas, not to be. He's refusing to debate. (Like Steyn says: 'It's beneath them.')

Thanks again,

Best, Sarah

58 posted on 04/26/2002 8:08:25 AM PDT by Sarah
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To: Pokey78
Faced with a choice between Eurodee and Eurodum, you can't blame electors for choosing to make it a real race by voting for the one guy running on an openly stated, clearly defined manifesto.

Oh man, Mark Steyn is SO GOOD!! His intentions mix-ups of the names of Jospin and Chirac, i.e. Chipin and Josrac, was just MASTERFUL in its description of how interchangeable those two guys actually are!

Someone please enlighten me. If Le Pen actually gets some serious votes and threatens Chirac (though doesn't win) does his 'party' get some seats in the government? I have studiously avoided trying to find out how the French Govt. runs because frankly it is unimportant, but I was just curious.

59 posted on 04/26/2002 8:10:00 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Pokey78
Primo quality Mark Steyn! Fantastic! quotables:

"...the way you defeat poisonous ideas is to expose them to the bracing air of open debate"

I love the bit about EUtopia and EUrinals!!!

60 posted on 04/26/2002 8:10:17 AM PDT by chilepepper
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