Be careful with the "war-loving" label. Why would people who keep loosing wars love them? There could be a strong case made that the U.S. is a "war-loving" nation (we usually win and just look at most of our war movies). Also, we have the most effective and massive war machine in the history of civilization - we are the war leader of mankind; the world is trying to follow our example.
Tell you what. We'll be careful with the "war loving" label, if you're careful not to dodge and avoid questions you don't know how or care to answer. Okay?
To cut straight through all the crap, the reasons the fundi-muslims love war is because they hate their own miserable, unproductive lives, and they hate everyone else, especially the Israelis, for loving their own lives enough to do something useful with them.
Israelis, like Americans, are doers. We are productive with our lives. We make the world a better, more efficient place. We build buildings, create products that make other people's lives easier, create jobs, write books and music. How then do you expect a bunch of losers who think the world "owes" them anything, to feel when faced in such close proximity with a superior culture.
Yes, it's true. The Jews have a superior culture. We Americans have a superior culture. The muslims had a brief golden age, but the more fundamental islamicists threw it all away early on in their history, choosing instead to adhere to the more reactionary dogmas of their religion and devolving into a culture which, tho' it may function well in preserving small groups of nomads in the sterile and hostile sands of the arabian desert, has been tragically left behind by the civilized world.
Having been so infamously outperformed in the human arena, the fundi-muslims, unable to cope in the modern world, and too proud to admit that their hard won survival skills have little use in this world except as berserker/warriors, are choosing to stick with the latter.
Fundi-islam is committing suicide by cop. Israel and the U.S. are the only nations, both capable and willing to carry out that function.
Think of the world media as the O.J. jury.
Ask Yasser Arafat.
There could be a strong case made that the U.S. is a "war-loving" nation (we usually win and just look at most of our war movies).
Oh please! Usually we get remarks like this on or approaching the anniversary of Hiroshima. America is evil, blah, blah. Unjustified use of force, blah, blah. Warmongering imperialists, blah, blah. Ad infinitum. Ad nauseum.
The truth of the matter is America has stood against the forces of evil in the world since day one. Yes, including Vietnam. If you don't think so, talk to any of the Vietnamese boat people who escaped the Communist "re-education" camps.
You want to see a war-loving culture, look to Europe, Asia and the Middle East, not to mention numerous South American despots. All this talk of war-loving America is just fodder for the hate-America crowd.
Also, we have the most effective and massive war machine in the history of civilization - we are the war leader of mankind; the world is trying to follow our example.
If that's the case it was because we needed it. Just ask Neville Chamberlain how effective his "Peace In Our Time" deal with Hitler turned out in Munich in 1938.
And if the world is trying to follow our example, you can thank your lucky stars that even if they do perfect the technique, we still have the power to blow them off the map.
Polls run about 65 to 73% of palestinians favoring terrorism. So it is true that there are many who do not support this form of warfare. For the sake of those, Israel has not done what many nations would do, which is to simply bomb their enemies or lob mortar shells on them, or blow them up in pizza parlors. Instead, they risk their own soldier's lives to try to surgically remove terrorists so that people could go about their daily life without getting blown up by mindnumbed kids. 23 soldiers paid for that practice, when they could have simply stood off and flattened the whole town.
It is the Arabs who declared war (jihad) , not the US and not Israel. It's not that people 'love' war so much as they are taught through propaganda that war will solve their probelems. They are told this because otherwise, they might associate their problems and their lack of jobs with their own leadership. There is no room for dissent, for views that conflict with the views of the leadership are not permitted. Anyone who speaks out against their leader's policies are branded as collaborators and murdered, so most keep silent. In an environment where the press is controlled by the leadership, and public speech in opposition is dangerous, and people accuse others of collaboration in order to see them murdered, what else can people do? They cannot strike out at their own leaders, in words or with force. Their own leaders keep telling them their problems are caused by Jews and Americans and provide them with all the fabricated evidence they need. And their schools preach hate and hide any information which might make people question their 'teachers.'
Your question is like asking why people who belong to gangs rob convenience stores, steal copper pipe from housing projects, carjack cars or sell drugs, when they know they will end up getting arrested.
A streetgang member thinks it is OK to rob a convenience store because he has been taught that the store rips off its customers anyway. He thinks it is OK to kill the clerk because he has no respect for the working man. He has been not been taught to respect such people. Besides, they work for the store which rips off the neighborhood. Or they are Koreans and don't belong anyway. It is OK to steal the copper pipes because if he doesn't, someone else will. He doesn't think about how his theft will cost the taxpayer, or how miserable the tenants will be without their water. He knows the people he doesn't respect will pay to have the government he doesn't like replace the pipes and then he can steal them again. It is OK to carjack people because the people had a nicer car than he has. He thinks "if they didn't have such a nice car, then I would have a better car." So it is even OK to kill people who have nicer things than he does. It is OK to sell drugs because he needs money more than they do, and if someone doesn't sell them drugs, someone else will. If their parents don't want them doing drugs, then the parents are controlling and mean. Someone needs to give him a living, he thinks, and if OTHERS would give him a decent living, he wouldn't have to steal or kill people.
It is classic twisted class warfare 'logic' whether we are taling about gangs or terrorists. People engage in all kinds of stupid behavior when they are taught to blame their own incompetance on the other guy. (Just don't blame it on the rich guy called Arafat!)
There could be a strong case made that the U.S. is a "war-loving" nation (we usually win and just look at most of our war movies).
Just because someone is better at doing something than others, or is proud of his skills, does not mean he 'loves' doing it. That's just plain silly. I for one, really HATE having to paint houses. Nonetheless, I am very good at it and am proud of my work. I for one, really hate the idea of killing someone. But if I had someone threaten my life out of the blue, and I kill him in self-defense, it doesn't mean I like to kill because I have better reflexes. It doesn't mean I love killing if I am satisfied with my ability to remain steady when I shoot.
How do we prove that we don't love war in your world? Lose on purpose? that sort of logic reminds me of the days wehn they would pick out witches from regular women by throwing them into water over their heads. If they couldn't swim, they were not witches. If they could swim, they were witches and they could be burned.
Also, we have the most effective and massive war machine in the history of civilization
Yes, and THAT is WHY we can speak our minds in America without some jackass palestinian being able to lynch us. that is why the US still exists. But as I pointed out, the ability to do something with skill doesn't reflect a love for doing it.
We make sure we are the best soldiers so that our people won't ever have to find out what it is to be the worst. we are the best soldiers because we want to remain free, not because we want to kill.
- we are the war leader of mankind;
We are the nation who feeds mankind, who treats mankind for disease, who wraps their wounds, who tries to provide safe seas for all mankind to use, who provides a voice for those who may not speak in their own lands, who provides knowhow for power and technology for sanitation to mankind. We are the peacemakers of mankind. We are the defenders of free people. We have sacrificed for all mankind. We do not start war, but we will take the lead when others fail to do so in responding to war.
the world is trying to follow our example
If 'the world' (Arab world) was really trying to follow our example, their 'world' would have a first ammendment instead of state controlled press. They would have a second ammendment for all of their citizens, instead of just for their regime's followers. They wouldn't have lynchings of collaborators. They would have free elections. They would have an electoral system and checks and balances instead of royal families or little jackasses in military uniforms with police forces with the ethics of drug dealers and an army of ten-year-olds brainwashed to blow themselves up in fruitmarkets. Their constitutions (where they have one) wouldn't GIVE rights to people, but would recognize they already have God-given rights apart from government edicts. They would not have a state sanctioned religion or rule by religious clerics. They would have property rights over land to sell to whom they please, even to Jews or Christians or Buddhists or Hindus. The government wouldn't have a say over whether a person converted from Islam or not. They would have free market economies and a strong middle class to thwart the elite and the socialist urges of the poor and to provide growth and opportunity for people to advance themselves.