The myth of socialization: Kyle Williams debunks lies about home-schooling

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 27, 2002 | Kyle Williams

[E.G.C.]

Good point.

[ppaul]

An educated man today is a lonely man, like a solitary monk in the Dark Ages, surrounded by a sea of benighted ignorance. The curious thing about today, however, is that so many ignoramuses have college diplomas -- even graduate degrees!

Truth.

[EdReform]

"The largest group spreading this disinformation is the National Education Association... So, stop the spread of this deceit and disinformation..."

One way to stop the NEA is to cut into it's PAC funding by convincing teachers who are currently members to seek refunds for that part of their dues that are being used (illegally) for politcal activities. See the following information:

Reply #14 in the thread Let's Help Nail the Teachers Unions -- It is National FReep Time

References

Legal Costs Skyrocketing for Defiant Teachers Union - (see Teacher317's comments in reply #19)

NATIONAL UNION REFUNDS WASHINGTON TEACHERS

NEA: Lawbreaker

The NEA's Paper Chase

The Washington Times - Complaint accuses NEA of misusing funds to aid DNC

Another way to help defund the NEA is to convince education majors to join the AAE instead of the NEA when they take their first teaching job:

Association of American Educators
25201 Paseo de Alicia, Suite 104
Laguna Hills, CA 92653
Phone: 949-595-7979 or 1-800-704-7799
Fax: 949-595-7970
Email: info@aaeteachers.org
Website: www.aaeteachers.org

Please note that the AAE is not a union. It is a professional association. Annual dues are only $125 per year for teachers (includes $2 Million liability insurance - one of the reasons teachers join the NEA or AFT is for liability insurance). Student, retired educator, and associate/support memberships are $25 per year.

Labor Complaint Is Latest Hurdle For Teachers' Union

"New Teachers Not Necessarily Joining NEA

Landmark's most recent complaint was filed just one week after Mike Antonnuci, director of the Education Intelligence Agency, commented that some NEA state chapters are failing to recruit as many new teachers into the union as in past years...

Kafer says financially supporting the NEA could be especially troubling for a young, conservative teacher.

"I would think that would be particularly difficult to allow the money that you worked so hard for to go, not for negotiations for higher pay or the things that unions are supposed to do, instead it's going to defeat candidates that you support and going to causes that you really don't agree with," she argued. "I would think that would be a big disincentive."

In the most recent set of NEA resolutions, Kafer notes that the word "sexual" appears 41 times, "sexual orientation" 19 times, "reading" six times, and "mathematics" only five times.

"It seems like a preoccupation with an agenda that has nothing to do with reading and mathematics. I would think that would be a great concern to a teacher who is deeply committed to learning," she added. "There are other resolutions in there, too, about the environment, about cultural issues, things that have nothing to do with teaching, learning, or kids."...

"To some of these people, the union is an obsolete thing," she concluded. "They want to be able to control their careers."

Please pass this information on to teachers and education majors you know.

The NEA is a threat to home-schoolers

[EdReform]

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[PeteF]

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[agrace]

Thank you once again for the ping! I love this kid, wish I could remember to read his column every week. :) Great article.

[PeteF]

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[LarryLied]

All children of National Education Association members should be required to attend inter-city schools without bodyguards. They need to socialize.

heh...heh...make them live there too.

[JediGirl]

By looking at the e-mails to the editor this week, questions about home-schooling are still in play. Along with doubts about the home-schooling atmosphere and educational results, there is large concern over whether home-schoolers are properly socialized.

I was homeschooled for a year and couldn't stand being away from my peers. My brother and sister were homeschooled for 5 years. They and the people in their "homeschool group" here weren't ready for the "real world". But I had another friend in Texas who homeschooled for many years, but was definitely ready for the real world because she also got out outside of the group. Some people are not ready for the real world regardless because of homeschooling, but as long as you go to functions outside of homeschooling activities, i think you can function quite well.

[don-o]

I am a homeschooling parent. We only have one child. Our church is very small. No matter what anyones says, there are issues with homeschoolers having enough contact with other kids. It isn't about socialization as much as it is just plain old play time.

Well, that is a part of getting it figured out.

Have you checked out all the support groups in your community? We hooked up with a secular group, because, though we are Christians (Orthodox/Catholic mixed marriage) the many Fundamentalist support groups are a problem for both of us.

Be confident in your ability to teach your child, and do not be afraid to ally with non-Christians who also are doing the best thing for their kids. There is a common ground. I predict you will make friends, and get a chance to share your faith, at some point.

My boys play with pagans. The pagans we have met do not seek to convert us, nor do we seek to convert them. Rather, we agree on the basics of correct child nurturing. The faith matters then can happen naturally and in good time, as friendship and trust is developed

We have gounded the boys (ten and twelve) in the Christian faith, and they are well able to handle excursions into the "real world".

[joathome]

Young girls who put their pictures up on the internet, however innocent, are probably STILL not ready for the real world. :)

[ppaul]

The NEA is a threat to home-schoolers

Au contrare.
Home-schoolers are a threat to the NEA!

[glory]

You have to understand that your situation is not unique. It is often a struggle for parents to deprogram children who have been in ps for any extended period of time and it is difficult for parents themselves to change thier own attitude when ps is all they know. Chances are you had become used to what you were getting in public school, but that does not mean it is good or the type of socialization you were used to was even normal or healthy. I'm sure prostitutes become used to the job they do no matter how demeaning, but it still does not make it the ideal job or good for them because they "miss it" or are used to it. Most of the time, it's just what they know

[oust the louse]

I hope this young man becomes thier worst nightmare...I think he is now.he can certainly hold his own and then some!

[jlogajan]

If a young person grows up without any contact with other young people, they will probably be fine as adults because adults aren't supposed to act like children. However, if such a young person is suddenly thrown into a group of other young people, they will probaby not have as fluid an entry into that youthful population.

Of course, schooling isn't the only source of youth-youth contact. So home schooling doesn't preclude gaining such social skills (childish as they are.) In fact, a kid isolated from other kids would probably be pretty lonely. So that would be bad.

I don't recommend home schooling for every family, for every parent, for every student. First of all it is highly inefficient. But if it works, they should go for it.

[2Jedismom]

I don't recommend home schooling for every family, for every parent, for every student. First of all it is highly inefficient.

LOL! Seriously, I laughed so hard I nearly fell out of my chair. My main reason for homeschooling is because it is so much more efficient! Really, in just a couple (maybe 3 at the most) hours, my son is DONE with school each day, completed all required lessons, and off being a kid, playing at the park with his buddies, going to chess club, or just goofing off with his kid brother.

In the meantime, our neighbor's boy, who is the same age, leaves for school at 8am, gets in at 4pm and still has work to complete at home in the evening after supper! How inefficient is that? They have the kid for 8 hours and they still can't get him done before he has to come home?

When people ask me why I homeschool, they expect I do it for religious or political reasons. I do it because I think public school is a horrendous waste of time. You can ask just about any teacher and they'll tell you that a great part of their time is dealing with problems and not teaching. It's why even private school isn't an option for us. If they think can keep my kid for 8 hours and still not teach him what he needs to know before he comes home, just give him to me...I'll do it. A kid ought to be able to be a kid, not sit in a desk for 8 hours a day, 9 months out of the year.

[jlogajan]

Yes, if you have the time. But you are one adult teaching one or a few kids. That's how I meant efficient.

[2Jedismom]

Do you mean homeschooling is efficient, or inefficient? You said homeschooling was inefficient...

[stands2reason]

You forgot-- how to feel lower than a worm because you don't have the coolest clothes, i.e. Toughskins instead of Tommy Hilfiger.