GAYS: DON'T THROW STONES AT US

New York Post ^ | 4/29/02 | Roosevelt Joseph

[kattracks]

April 29, 2002 -- Gay groups rallied outside St. Patrick's Cathedral yesterday to protest a church leader's claim that homosexuality is at least partly to blame for the church's sex-abuse scandal.

Richard Haymes was among the nearly 150 protesters who carried signs that read, "Don't blame gays for your sins," and "Sex abuse is a crime. So is covering it up."

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

LETS SEE what is it 95% of the children that were molested were boys ? and molested by men i would call that homosexual activity so what if they were boys the men are queer not that it would be any better if they werent but if the shoe fits !

[Thundergod]

That's right. Mollestation of little boys is what happens when a church ordains SODOMITES to the clergy.

It's a no-brainer!

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

AGREED

[LarryLied]

Report: Pedophilia more common among 'gays'
WorldNetDaily | 4/29/2 | Jon Dougherty
Posted on 4/29/02 2:05 AM Eastern by scripter
Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study. . .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/674504/posts

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

YEA I READ THAT TOO SICKENING ISNT IT?

[LarryLied]

They protest the Church for covering up the molestation but you can be sure all the gay activists knew exactly what was going on for decades.Some of them had to be in on it. Didn't one of the Boston priests own part of a gay resort/hotel?

They are a gosspy subculture. Few years ago a freeper post a link to a gay site at which one could punch in a zip code and find public gathering places for homosexuals. Punched in my zip and it turned out to be a well known charity's thrift store. Told the day of the week and who to ask for.

[JoshGray]

"Maybe you didn’t hear me. I’m a Cath-o-lic priest. Historically that falls somewhere in between chorus boy and florist." Father Dan (Steven Lane) Jeffrey

[MissMillie]

Sexual activity is not the same thing as sexual orientation. Many heterosexual people occasionally engage in sexual activity with people of the same sex.

Most child sexual abuse is perpetrated by men on girls.... heterosexuality is never claimed to be the cause. Why is that?

Many of today's priests were recruited in their teens, before they were given an opportunity to identify and come to terms with their sexuality. Some experts have said that the "sexual age" of these pederast priests is about 13, and that most of them never developed a sexual identity at all, heterosexual OR homosexual.

[anniegetyourgun]

It's all about choice. Sadly, the RC church has made some bad choices about hiring folks who also made bad choices. But it's hypocrisy to see others making the same bad choice "protesting" for the same sin.

[LarryLied]

Some experts have said that the "sexual age" of these pederast priests is about 13

Judging from the number of victims, I would put their "sexual age" at 17.

Btw..there are very few "pederast priests." Most went after post-pubescent young boys.

[sakic]

The problem isn't who the Church hired. It's the fact that they've always protected the rapists and not turned them them over to the cops.

[maryz]

. . . all the gay activists knew exactly what was going on for decades.

I'm wondering if the incidents of ACT-UP and such throwing condoms at newly ordained priests coincided with the times that bishops actually were trying to clear gays out of the seminaries.

[conserve-it]

What should we throw at them.....lavender lollipops??

[EdReform]

BTTT

Homosexual Agenda

[Khepera]

A simple quote from the Bible on this issue:

9 When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin.
10 But I wasn't talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or who are greedy or are swindlers or idol worshipers. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that.
11 What I meant was that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a Christian yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or a drunkard, or a swindler. Don't even eat with such people.
12 It isn't my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your job to judge those inside the church who are sinning in these ways.
13 God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, "You must remove the evil person from among you."

1 Corinthians 5

[Fethiye]

"No-brainer" responses are not often wise, for obvious reasons. Try thinking about this situation, instead of just reacting.

Where are the molestation scandals in churches that ordain openly gay priests? Where are the molestation scandals in other situations where openly gay men are placed in positions of responsibility for children -- i.e., public schools? Answer: There are no such scandals. Only in the Catholic church.

This scandal is about secrecy and arrogance: Making people feel guilty about, and asking them to sublimate, their sexuality; then placing those same repressed people in charge of children; then, when some of those repressed people commit the crime of molestation (probably because they think they can both have sex and force their victims to keep it a secret) actively covering up the molestation.

And finally, when the cover-up is exposed, avoiding reform of the whole lousy system by blaming the problem on a convenient target (e.g. "the homosexuals")

[BlackVeil]

You ask: "Where are the molestation scandals in other situations where openly gay men are placed in positions of responsibility ... ? There are no such scandals. Only in the Catholic church." You suggest that the culture of cover up and repression in Catholicism has allowed these crimes to florish. But, in fact, there are numerous cases of this type of molestation in the elite Protestant public schools. My examples are from England and Australia, but I don't doubt that they are found in the USA as well. They rarely go to court because of the closed culture, and the fact that the victims are members of the ruling classes, and don't want to appear in the courts as witnesses. It is degrading. And in any case, up until recently, such behaviour was a sub-cultural norm, and accepted. Senior boys were involved as well, and would recruit younger ones for their select groups, often organised by a charismatic classics or music teacher. These teachers were bachelors, devoted to the institute, openly homosexual, and often very learned and cultured men. Some young members of these pederast groups have gone on to live heterosexual lives, but look back on it all with nostalgia, not anger. But in Sydney, Australia, police have begun to investigate complaints of offenses going back years, so not everyone is willing to overlook it.

[Thundergod]

Only in the Catholic church.

Here you either demonstrate ignorance or are lying outright. There is no greater proportion of the problem in ANY faith during these sick times. But the media frenzy is focused on the Catholic Church for some reason. Get your facts straight next time. (or don't lie... whichever the case may be.)

[bjcintennessee]

I am not so certain that the abuse is restricted to homosexuals. I am not familiar with the Catholic church, but I have never heard of 'altar girls'. Therefore I think it possible that boys were the more readily available targets to sex-crazed 'celibates' who put their cravings for sexual release above causing lasting harm to their victims. Females might have sufficed had they been as readily available.

Celibacy was a law made by man, not by God, and the Catholic church should reconsider.

And these child molesters and those who aided them, should be put under the jail.