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DID THE ISRAELIS DO IT?
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| May 4, 2002
| William F. Buckley
Posted on 05/05/2002 4:11:32 PM PDT by MaxwellWolf
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Good insight into Arab psyche.
To: MaxwellWolf
Good insight, yes, though one wonders where Buckley has been. Even Hamas, the terrorist organization that partly ruled the "camp", now says there were only 56 Palis killed in Jenin.
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posted on
05/05/2002 4:31:17 PM PDT
by
jimtorr
To: MaxwellWolf
lying was a sign not of innate bad character but of creative self-defense Poor, poor Pallies, they have only sticks and stones and lies to defend themselves.
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posted on
05/05/2002 4:36:02 PM PDT
by
Alouette
To: MaxwellWolf,monkeyshine, ipaq2000, Lent, veronica, Sabramerican, beowolf, Nachum, BenF, angelo, b
PINGING!!!
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posted on
05/05/2002 4:40:12 PM PDT
by
dennisw
To: MaxwellWolf
I don't know about making this blanket statement about Arabs, but I've often heard that the Koran OKs lying to non-Muslims. Does anyone have a quote?
Oh, a bit of levity for this serious thread ;)
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posted on
05/05/2002 5:10:22 PM PDT
by
agrace
To: dennisw
This time, even without that corroboration, I express doubt that the Jenin "massacre," at the dimension being charged, actually took place.It is a lie ,the Muslim PR company thinks whinning wins points..Most Americans hate lying...and this light will come to day and backfire on them big time IMHO
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posted on
05/05/2002 5:11:27 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: MaxwellWolf
"Out of the very stones they will fabricate such a tower of falsehoods
that you can only stand and gape in wonder and admiration repugnance
at their fruitful invention diabolical gall."
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posted on
05/05/2002 5:21:22 PM PDT
by
SKempis
To: MaxwellWolf
Where there is no free press, one tends to ask: What is it that is being hidden? This amateurish psychoanalysis is maybe OK for home use, but what "free press" does the guy have in mind? The NY Times' radical libs or The Independent's anti-Semite bullshitters?
There are scores of hysterical Left-wingers in the lamestream media ready to get themselves killed or maimed at a battlefield knowing that it would cause a huge anti-Israeli outcry. These wannabe martyrs are in urgent need of a shrink's services, and to give them access to Jenin during the ongoing fight would be stupid to extreme.
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posted on
05/05/2002 6:09:17 PM PDT
by
Neophyte
To: Neophyte
As much as I respect WFB, he has written some
stuff lately that could have been written by the editorialists at the New York Times.
In it he says "My vote is that General Sharon's offensive is the stupidest campaign in recent memory. Defined here as a campaign that has: solved nothing, increased Israel's problems, intensified Palestinian hatred of Israel, estranged many Europeans and Americans, and fanned Islamic hostility. What is General Sharon up to?"
I don't think life at Yale educated him on the military reality of rooting out an entrenched terrorist army from an area like Jenin. The posted article almost sounds like some sort of mea culpa from ol' Bill.
To: CrossCheck
intensified Palestinian hatred of Israel, estranged many Europeans and Americans, and fanned Islamic hostility. That's the core of his concerns.
And I say, screw those estranged by the Israeli defensive operation. Screw Palis and Islamists.
And screw ol'Bill if he doesn't understand that, whatever amount of appeasement, it wouldn't change above mentioned hatred and hostility.
Proper Arab ass-kicking every several years is the only way for Israel to survive. Of course it doesn't resolve the problems forever, but the same is correct for the entire mankind history.
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posted on
05/05/2002 7:25:55 PM PDT
by
Neophyte
To: MaxwellWolf
Fantastic !
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posted on
05/05/2002 7:31:19 PM PDT
by
ChadGore
To: CrossCheck
If you are going to damn a person with his own words then do it in the context in which he used them. From the same article
General Sharon might have sent in a platoon, pulled out Arafat and his 100 lieutenants and executed them on the entirely reasonable grounds that they embodied the terrorist movement in the West Bank. A bullet into the heart of Arafat is not a wayward contribution to the search for the infrastructure of the evil and genocidal war against Israel. So Palestine would be left leaderless? Such a problem would be that of the Palestinians who have tolerated Arafat for so many years.
To: MaxwellWolf
In the one week prior to the Israeli incursion into the West bank, there were about 45 Israeli deaths from suicide bombings. These have been stopped for the past three weeks. On that basis alone, Sharon did what he had to do to protect the county's citizens.
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posted on
05/05/2002 7:47:07 PM PDT
by
NCDoc
To: Texasforever
Agreed, WFB is correct in saying that placing a bullet in Yassir's heart would not be a bad thing. However, doing same would still have the effect of
"intensified Palestinian hatred of Israel, estranged many Europeans and Americans, and fanned Islamic hostility" etc. Also, merely eliminating Yassir still leaves the terrorist infrastructure and bomb making apparatus in place, with plenty of aspiring "leaders" willing to take his place.
I would have preferred the elimination of Arafat as well as the course Sharon followed. Let's just say that WFB was half right.
To: CrossCheck
Also, merely eliminating Yassir still leaves the terrorist infrastructure and bomb making apparatus in place, with plenty of aspiring "leaders" willing to take his place. After the year of internal fighting to take Arafat's place. You don't kill a snake by destroying its den, you destroy a snake by killing it. Israel has known the exact whereabouts of Arafat and his entire command structure for 30 years and have let it survive. That is no ones fault but every Israeli government since Golda Mier.
To: dennisw
If correctly guided by such reasoning, "Palestinians know in some reserved part of themselves that the Israelis are normal human beings and only doing what they themselves would do if the situation of the two people were reversed." But to admit any such thing is to surrender a weapon, one which seems to be working on luminaries of the international community, including Kofi Annan (news - web sites), Christopher Patten, and U.N. Middle East envoy Terje Roed-Larsen, a Norwegian -- and Michael Adams. They see what was done in Jenin as "totally unacceptable and horrific beyond belief." Indeed.
To: MaxwellWolf
Gotta love the media take on this. They call a terrorist stronghold a "refugee camp". Nice doublespeak.
To: MaxwellWolf
Where there is no truthful press the people wonder.
To: RnMomof7
I caught a bit of FoxNews tonight when they were discussing the faked funeral Palestine put on. Once it was exposed as a fraid, the Palestinian reaction was to say "we were making a movie".
At least as the lies come out, some are good for a bit of humor.
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posted on
05/05/2002 8:34:30 PM PDT
by
Brytani
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