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Some government education camps are getting an early start training our children to become accustomed to total government control.
1 posted on 05/06/2002 6:40:03 AM PDT by rw4site
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To: rw4site
Very sad....thanks for posting. Have you considered home schooling?
2 posted on 05/06/2002 6:47:03 AM PDT by wwjdn
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I don't know. Maybe I'm just numb this Monday morning,
but I think the lady is stretching this a bit thin.
3 posted on 05/06/2002 6:48:08 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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Capitalist solution: Take your business elsewhere: change schools.
4 posted on 05/06/2002 6:49:11 AM PDT by AzJP
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 a loss of our children's rights to use cash.

What about their right to carry a water pistol?
The notion of a child's right to use cash trivializes
the issue of liberty.

5 posted on 05/06/2002 6:57:05 AM PDT by gcruse
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She raises some interesting points about this system, but the solution for privacy right advocates is simple in this case...

PACK A LUNCH

6 posted on 05/06/2002 6:58:49 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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Pack the kids a bag lunch and bypass the bueracracy.
7 posted on 05/06/2002 7:01:20 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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Our elementary school sons use a PIN system, and it really never occurred to me to object. I'm grateful that they don't lose their lunch money or get bullied by older kids who are looking to steal it. They use cash and practice counting change at the school store where they buy pencils and occasional trinkets.

I'm pretty quick to get irritated by people asking for private information, but I guess this is one battle I wouldn't choose to fight. When we were this age, we came home for lunch. School districts can't count on sending little ones home for lunch anymore. I really don't fault them for using an electronic system for lunch money. I think cash should be an option, but at this age many kids aren't good at keeping track of money.

8 posted on 05/06/2002 7:01:39 AM PDT by Think free or die
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Brown-bagging would remove the problem entirely.
10 posted on 05/06/2002 7:03:40 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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Fooling around with these rules and laws is like tinkering with the tax code. It won't work and you have conceded that you must live with it by debating the details.

Eliminate government schools and you solve the problem.

11 posted on 05/06/2002 7:11:06 AM PDT by Protagoras
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Are school lunch PINs he Mark of the Beast? No! This woman has gone off the deep end. I'm calling the government and having a black helo pick her up.
12 posted on 05/06/2002 7:28:16 AM PDT by StockAyatollah
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Try telling that to Kroger. They do not require the Kroger plus card but without it you pay much more.
13 posted on 05/06/2002 7:31:13 AM PDT by Khepera
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This woman is the mother of 6 children. I am happy that this is the worst thing she has to worry about.
15 posted on 05/06/2002 7:38:26 AM PDT by Ditter
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She's right. Schools have no business running a bank.
17 posted on 05/06/2002 7:42:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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The No. 1 problem with government schools is that they are run by the government. The No. 2 problem with government schools is that they are just too damn big. Many of the problems being encountered in government schools are due to the sheer size of these student warehouses.

If we had schools of the proper size where most everybody knew each other, then there would be no excuse for requiring ID for any purpose, including just to pay cash to buy a lunch.

We had no student ID in my schools. Nobody ever needed to see ID because everyone knew me. If I didn't follow the rules, my teacher, the principal, and my parents would all know about faster than I could spit.
29 posted on 05/06/2002 8:15:05 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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For years there were no cafeterias. Kids took their lunch or lived close enough to go home for lunch. Then came the cafeteria and the parents sent a quarter to school with the child to pay for their lunch. From that day forward there have been kids who lose their money or forget it and there are also cases where kids will beat up a child or threaten to beat them up for their lunch money.

Then came the free lunch and free breakfast, kids who got a free lunch were sometimes embarassed because they were teased by the other kids so they came up with the the lunch card where parents could pay for the lunch by the week or the child who didn't pay got the same kind of card and the student got their card punched but these cards would forever get misplaced or lost.

The PIN sounds like it might just be a better way to keep track of the money, and make sure the kid gets to eat. Who payed and what student does the school get paid by the state or free lunch program.

It sounds like this woman who has 6 children still has too much time on her hands.

30 posted on 05/06/2002 8:15:20 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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Adults in this country are just too selfish and receive what they deserve for it. Stop being selfish! Homeschool your children.
31 posted on 05/06/2002 8:16:10 AM PDT by theoutsideman
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Ancient Proverb: Give a bully your lunch money, and you will feed him for a day. Give him your pin, and he will eat your lunch forever.
35 posted on 05/06/2002 8:31:24 AM PDT by monkey
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This move to lunch numbers is in response to the Federal "Free" Lunch program. It keeps the children or non qualifying others from getting free lunches. But cash is OK, it just has to have a number to account for where it came in. Even the teachers who eat in the lunchroom have assigned numbers. This is not just in Clear Creek but will soon be in every lunchroom near you. In Florida, we have had this system for three years. Pack a lunch! It cuts down on the amount of control the feds have over the school when fewer applications for free and reduced lunch are recieved.
37 posted on 05/06/2002 8:41:29 AM PDT by arthurus
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The purpose of the PIN should be obvious to you - it's so the kids eating "free lunch" aren't embarassed when their parents drop them off and pick them up in new cars.

These parasites frequent the elementary school across the street from me. I regularly see the parents of "free breakfast" and "free lunch" kids driving new quad cab pickups, new Toyota and Honda sedans, new Chevies and Fords, etc.; and there's one I've seen driving a new Cadillac Sedan de Ville. With, of course, four "bambinos" who eat on the taxpayer's nickel.

After all, we couldn't publicize those whose parents are so worthless they can't even feed their own kids, while buying new cars, now could we? Someone might be embarassed.

40 posted on 05/06/2002 9:59:20 AM PDT by jimt
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