Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"Gun Rights Do Not Compute," Say Media Cyborgs
RichardPoe.com ^ | May 10, 2002 | Richard Poe

Posted on 05/10/2002 10:35:56 AM PDT by Richard Poe

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 last
To: tpaine
Good idea, but why base it on a 28 ga.? As per tet's ammo post, the options in 12 ga ammo more than make up for any weight penalty. In fact, I hear the new 50 cal sabot slugs damn near make the 12 ga. into a 100 yd rifle.

Per NFA'34, a firearm with a bore over ½" is a "destructive device" unless the Treasury Secretary deems it suitable for "sporting purposes". A 28ga shotgun should be chokable down to 0.499" without any problem; a 20ga or 12ga would require a larger bore.

61 posted on 05/13/2002 10:36:21 PM PDT by supercat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: supercat
You can't beat the government at the 'regulating' game. They would, & will, change the 'rules' if they feel it is necessary.

But I doubt they will ever have the guts to flat outlaw 12 ga shotguns. - Bullpup 'style' sure, they will no doubt try.

62 posted on 05/13/2002 11:28:40 PM PDT by tpaine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: tpaine
Bullpup 'style' sure, they will no doubt try.

They already have. But regulations require enabling legislation; there is no enabling legislation that would allow them to ban a double-barrel or semi-auto bull-pup shotgun whose bore size was 0.499".

Actually, there are already a variety of interesting non-class-III guns available that shoot .410 shotshells. For example, I've seen a revolver which holds five .410" shotshells and has probably about a 3" rifled barrel; the rifling is not for accuracy, but rather to make the thing be a "handgun" rather than a "shotgun". My suggestion to use .28ga, possibly in a longer cartridge, is intended to produce something more powerful than a .410 in "interesting" configurations.

63 posted on 05/13/2002 11:58:41 PM PDT by supercat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Gianni
Dah. For normal judicial approved militia uses, go with Mossberg M-500, M-590 or SKB-XL100. Be sure to get a variable choked barrel.

On 12 February 1999, the US Army Armaments Research, Development, and Engineering Center awarded a contract to Heckler and Koch, in Sterling, Virginia for a 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun, the new HK/Benelli M4 Super 90 (M4S90) for the US Armed Forces.

Designated the XM1014 Joint Services Combat Shotgun (JSCS), the shotgun was developed by Benelli Armi S.p.A. of Urbino, Italy for HK, Inc.

It comes stock with an 18.5" barrel, but if you'd like you can get a militia approved 14" barrel. So apparently barrels less than 21" are appropriate militia weapons; incorrect understanding of English language grammer with respect to the 2nd Ammendment notwithstanding. Dah. What lumbskulls them judges are.

64 posted on 05/14/2002 2:25:52 AM PDT by raygun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Dan from Michigan
Ping.
65 posted on 05/14/2002 2:37:36 AM PDT by raygun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Lazamataz
I see an Uzi with a wood stock, a Marlin Camper-Combo, A Kel-Tec P-32, A Ruger Redhawk, among others....

You are such an extremist... ;P

66 posted on 05/14/2002 2:42:02 AM PDT by RedWing9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Richard Poe
When you see any dog out there scaring old ladies and what not, we have to admit that we need to live in dignity as people, able to defeat or tame any big dog or whatever effectively, with the help of a firearm. The right to bear arms is an inalienable jurisdiction as the electric steak knife is to feed kids. It what makes people people and not scared animals dominated by other animals.

While jogging in Europe I was harassed regularly by dum dogs, and I can tell you, it is very humiliating to find yourself intimidated and helpless against an inferior animal that rounds you like a sheep. Gun-controlers need to live by their words, with dogs barking around them, helpless, and then they can let us know if they like their sheeple lives.

67 posted on 05/14/2002 2:44:17 AM PDT by lavaroise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Richard Poe
These professors need lessons in Common Law.
68 posted on 05/14/2002 2:46:41 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Richard Poe
Richard Poe member since March 1st, 2002
 
Send Letter Find in Forum
I know it's a bit late, but welcome to FRee Republic. Please keep up the great work.
69 posted on 05/14/2002 3:17:28 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: raygun
Seems odd that they actually use the words militia approved given the wording of 2A. Seems that the HK doesn't have as much trouble reading the English language as certain Americans do.

Personally, I would consider a short-barrelled shotgun (10-12") a nearly ideal weapon for dispatching critters. It would fit nicely in the console of the truck, too. For years I carried around a 22 under the back seat, and am still surprised at how often it came in handy. Took up a lot of room, though.

In my state you can't have a handgun in the passenger compartment, so the options are pretty limited without some sort of lockable storage in the truck bed.

70 posted on 05/14/2002 4:25:25 AM PDT by Gianni
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Texasforever
And didn't you ask "Where?" in regards to sexual innuendo? Since we're thread hopping...
71 posted on 05/14/2002 8:03:50 PM PDT by philman_36
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: philman_36
And didn't you ask "Where?" in regards to sexual innuendo? Since we're thread hopping...

Only if you view guns a sexual objects. Do you?

72 posted on 05/14/2002 8:05:42 PM PDT by Texasforever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Texasforever
Only if you view guns a sexual objects. Do you?
Do you mean "as" sexual objects? No, but you obviously do. Others even noticed your sexual inference, as the thread indicates.
73 posted on 05/14/2002 8:19:48 PM PDT by philman_36
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: RandallFlagg
Stephen King fan, eh? Me too. The Stand will be remembered as a classic novel of the American spirit, long after Philip Roth, John Cheever, Norman Mailer and other overrated pets of the "literary" elite have vanished into well-deserved oblivion.

Thanks for the welcome. Actually, I first joined FreeRepublic.com in March 1999, but under a different name.

I re-registered under my real name on March 1, 2002, figuring that would be more appropriate for the purpose of posting my own articles. At least people would know who to blame for the posts.

74 posted on 05/18/2002 5:55:17 AM PDT by Richard Poe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: stlrocket
What does the last picture mean?
75 posted on 08/29/2002 9:32:37 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: stlrocket
Rather, what is it a picture of?
76 posted on 08/29/2002 9:35:33 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
In countries where the government has taken all the guns from the citizens - either by legislation - by force, or, by any other means, a citzen has NO (repeat NO) options.

You can't suddenly decide that, "oops" now, I want to have a gun. It's too late. And, if you happen to by a particular person or group of people that the current government doesn't like - you are SOL.

I prefer options! I don't want Morons like Ted Kennedy deciding what I should or shouldn't do, should or shouldn't say, etc.

77 posted on 08/29/2002 6:36:23 PM PDT by stlrocket
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Richard Poe
The honest thing to do would be to amend the Constitution.

Instead, we get decades of creeping legislation.

I'm no constitutional scholar, but any fool can read the thing and understand the meaning and intent. "The People" throughout the document clearly means individual citizens. Free speech rights have been construed out to the hilt in sophist interpretation to include flag-burning and child porn. But, when it comes to the 2nd, everyone becomes a bunch of scalian textualists.

Come on, guys. Do the honest thing -- amend the constitution, or follow the letter and spirit of our founding documents.

78 posted on 08/29/2002 7:06:35 PM PDT by Freedom4US
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Richard Poe
Great post for 2nd Amendment supporters.
79 posted on 08/29/2002 7:21:28 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson