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Schools battle emotional bullying
The Cincinnati Enquier ^ | May 12, 2002 | Karen Sampler

Posted on 05/12/2002 9:03:39 AM PDT by yankeedame

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Makes you wonder how any of us survived childhood without the help of these d#$@ bluestocking.
1 posted on 05/12/2002 9:03:40 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
Bump to a bully supporter. Have you got slugged in the stomach today?
2 posted on 05/12/2002 9:14:13 AM PDT by xinga
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But why not crack down on pointless cruelty?

Seems to me that it would be a Good Thing.

D

3 posted on 05/12/2002 9:17:40 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: yankeedame
Actually an important lesson is learned by those fifth graders who are the victims of bullying:

Lesson 1: There are a lot of A--holes out there. Get used to it.

Lesson 2: Learn physical self-defense and mental toughness. You will need it.

Lesson 3: Authority figures are useless in the trenches. They talk a good game but in the end you are on your own.

Who says you don't learn good stuff at school? ;-)
4 posted on 05/12/2002 9:36:25 AM PDT by cgbg
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To: yankeedame
Amen to that...I want reparation!

"Emotional bullying" (or any other type) won't be stopped by the school until it stops in the workplace, home, laundry, country club, church or anywhere else people congregate.

Wouldn't the school be guilty of emotional bullying by publically accusing someone of emotional bullying? Besides that, it's not the schools job..is it? That should be left to such expert malcontents as Hillary, Barbera Boxer, Diane Fienstien and Oprah.

5 posted on 05/12/2002 9:40:47 AM PDT by Ground0
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To: daviddennis
But why not crack down on pointless cruelty?

Naa, yankeedame probably smiled while other kids were being picked on because she was so cool. Yankeedame is just a sadist with an attitude. She must support Zimbabwe bullying the farmers.

6 posted on 05/12/2002 9:42:11 AM PDT by xinga
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To: Ground0
Reason 2015 for homeschooling.  Avoid the bullies.
7 posted on 05/12/2002 9:42:43 AM PDT by Khepera
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xinga...

Perhaps yankeedame was the "slugger", not the "slugee". That do make a difference in attitude.

8 posted on 05/12/2002 9:45:50 AM PDT by cynicom
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Well I´m only 20, so elementary school, middle school, and high school bullying is a pretty recent memory. I got made fun of for anything imaginable . . . being shorter, smaller, skinnier (imagine!), wearing glasses, knowing the answers in class, bringing pita breat sandwiches to lunch (so popular now!), you name it, I got teased for it. I came home crying just about every day. My loving, supportive, and most of all PRESENT parents hugged me and told me that though I might not believe it at the time, things would change. When you get older, they´d tell me, you´d fine your real friends are you brothers, your cousins, and the kids at Church. I didn´t believe them then, but of course they were right. By the time high school came, I had found my real friends. I never had to bring a gun to school, kill myself or anyone else, or write a feel-good bull**** article/novel/memior to ´´heal.´´ I just got over it. Why don´t they teach that anymore?
9 posted on 05/12/2002 9:49:10 AM PDT by Truth'sBabyGirl
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To: cgbg
The subjective world of one rather powerful person can infringe on the world of another person.

I’m curious; did you understand your own quote from Philip Dick? (From your profile page) Your probably a lesson 1.

10 posted on 05/12/2002 9:53:27 AM PDT by xinga
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Truth...

Firstly, how does one get "over" anything at 20? The fact that you recited your schoolhood problems, denies your very statement.

Secondly, if you really underwent bullying, physical, social, or otherwise, you never forget it or "overcome" it. I am on my eigth decade and I and those I schooled with,that were so treated, have never forgotten.

Thirdly, when in the company of the "bullies", which is very seldom, one can see guilt on their face and hear it in their speech. It is very uncomfortable being in their presence, not for my sake but for theirs. It is quite evident they have not forgotten.

11 posted on 05/12/2002 9:59:19 AM PDT by cynicom
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"Lesson 2: Learn physical self-defense and mental toughness. You will need it."

If I may add to this line...I would suggest taking martial arts to learn how to fight. NOT bodybuilding. While the two are not completely disimiliar, I have a friend who is a 3rd degree black belt in Shotokan who took on two Navy Seals once and won (both floored), and you'd never know it to look at him. Start martial arts early, and you will not HAVE to fight when you're older.

12 posted on 05/12/2002 10:03:49 AM PDT by Windsong
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"Emotional bullying" (or any other type) won't be stopped by the school until it stops in the workplace, home, laundry, country club, church or anywhere else people congregate.

Your argument doesn’t wash, These are all places you “congregate” by choice. You can leave if you want. A kid can’t leave if he wants. If you become the target of bullies you can’t become (your profile page) Cleverly disguised as a harmless musician/poet/beatnik liberal artist type, I ambush the lefty opposition…

13 posted on 05/12/2002 10:09:39 AM PDT by xinga
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To: cynicom
Perhaps yankeedame was the "slugger", not the "slugee".

Yea, but I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and just consider that she doesn’t know the meaning of empathy. She’s upset with the bullies of Zimbabwe but has no problem with schoolyard bullies. Go figure.

14 posted on 05/12/2002 10:20:12 AM PDT by xinga
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If they really want to do away with emotional bullyinbg, they ought to kick out the teachers unions, abolish the Dept of Education, encourage home schooling and give vouchers to the parents who aren't in a position to homeschool.

The people in the professional education establishment are the biggest bullies going.

15 posted on 05/12/2002 10:26:35 AM PDT by Maceman
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So, you congregate at work by choice, do you? You can leave if you want? We all must deal with the rest of humanity through the course of daily life and with that comes the inherant human trait of vying for social standing. Some people bring themselves up by tearing others down, some don't have to.

It's an observation...not an argument.

16 posted on 05/12/2002 10:26:56 AM PDT by Ground0
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I got made fun of for anything imaginable . . . being shorter, smaller, skinnier (imagine!), wearing glasses, knowing the answers in class, bringing pita breat sandwiches to lunch (so popular now!), you name it, I got teased for it.

I wish. How about “I got slugged for anything imaginable, glasses were broken, pita breat [sic] was spit on, you name it, it was trashed.”?

17 posted on 05/12/2002 10:36:31 AM PDT by xinga
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So, you congregate at work by choice, do you? You can leave if you want?

Answer, No and Yes. So if coworkers were slugging you and trashing your work area at every opportunity you’d have no problem with it? You agree that school should be like “It's like being put in a cage and having people throw stuff at you all day,” says Allen Chaney, 13, a student at Ockerman Middle School in Boone County, Ky.” (From the above article.)

18 posted on 05/12/2002 10:52:41 AM PDT by xinga
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To: yankeedame
Bullying in school should simply not be tolerated. I'm not talking about some liberal touchy-feely solution to this problem. I'm not talking about "counseling" of bullies. I'm not talking about any of that.

I'm talking about simply kicking the bullies out of school. Period. End of story.

Hey, the world needs gas station attendants, burger flippers and street cleaners too. And most bullies end up taking those jobs anyhow. So why keep them in school where all they do is harass the kids who actually want to learn something and make something of themselves?

I know exactly what it was like to be bullied and "socially isolated." I have a mild case of Tourette's Syndrome and my twitches made me a social outcast and the target of bullies the entire time I was in school. I had "friends" desert me because they didn't want to become the targets of bullies themselves. So I was left on my own. Screw the people who are saying here that I should have just toughened up and that life's not fair, blah, blah, blah. I did toughen up, but it made no difference. They just came at me 4 on one or 5 on one. I already knew that life wasn't fair - I didn't need that lesson reinforced day after day with constant verbal and physical harrassment. It got so bad in high school that I couldn't go into the cafeteria or the bathrooms, except after school, where I would hide in the bathroom for a half hour so that I didn't have to get beat up on my way home.

My public school education was ruined by these thugs. Good thing I joined the Marine Corps to get the hell out of that environment. And good thing that instead of turning to drugs or other self-destructive ways to ease my disenchantment with life in general, I simply lost myself in books. And I never stopped reading to this day so that I am as educated, if not better educated, than just about any college grad.

Our public high schools have turned into jungles and I have no reason they are any better today, even with all the wishy-washy "zero-tolerance" policies towards physical violence. The problem can only be solved by throwing the disruptive kids out of school and turning our public schools into institutions of learning once again - not warehouses for troubled kids.

19 posted on 05/12/2002 11:55:45 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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