EMINEM BATTLES CHENEY

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[homeschool mama]

**kind of hard to do when you hear the thumping crap in cars coming from a 1/2 mile away! whatever happened to noise ordinances/pollution? **

On more than a few occasions I've resorted to blasting a classical cd with my windows open to drown out the thump thump squeek of the RAP at the stop light. Wish I could conduct a Citizen's Arrest...or at least slap them upside the head.

[homeschool mama]

Parental apathy. I see it often.

[freedomtrail]

Rap isn't music. Not by a long shot.

[rockfish59]

I've gotten tickets for noisy motorcycle mufflers but these clowns get away with it no problem.
how about a petition to outlaw it since the politico's don't seem to give a rat's @$$!

[Enlightiator]

lol, sorry hsmama, clicked the wrong post. My reply in #199 was to Oschisms post# 155.

[homeschool mama]

I'll take a loud motorcycle over rap crap anyday. Something *does* need to be done about the rap noise in public.

[homeschool mama]

No problem, E. Thanks.

[Plummz]

That means "It stinks." Brush up on your reading comprehension.

And, alas, even those private universities with halfway-decent Ph.D. programs are tainted by federal dollars. My stipend (like the entire department) is largely privately endowed, if that helps.

[Plummz]

Stan is most obviously in the third person. Or are you not aware that "Slim Shady" is a character? Am I to assume you think Johnny Cash advocates romancing and murdering women named Delia?

[AmishDude]

The song itself is a first-person narrative. You can tell because of the occurance of "I" and "me". That it is framed in the form of a letter hardly obscures that fact. A character can easily issue a first-person narrative without being the "I" to which it refers.

[Plummz]

Yes, in the same way that the angel michael speaks in the first person in the Revelation of John, and Darth Vader speaks in the first person in "Star Wars." Any assertion that one is a "first-person narrative" and the others are not is specious.

[AmishDude]

Yes, in the same way that the angel michael speaks in the first person in the Revelation of John, and Darth Vader speaks in the first person in "Star Wars." Any assertion that one is a "first-person narrative" and the others are not is specious.

Wow! Have your analogies broken down or what? The Revelation to John is, in fact, a first-person work, but from the point of view of . . . get ready . . . John. Star Wars is, in fact, a third-person work in which there are many characters, Darth Vader is probably the least verbose among them.

But I concede. Why could I not have seen it before? Move over, Milton. Stand aside, Shakespeare. The greatest mind of our time is the greatest poet of all time. The great and mighty Eminem!

Forget

Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink.

Forevermore, young and old alike will recall the profound words

That's pretty sh!!!y man - you're like his f*ck!n idol.

I stand chagrined.

[Plummz]

Yes, I am aware Revelation is a first-person narrative by John. When he speaks, he is speaking as himself. The first-person narrative in songs on "Eminem" albums is delivered by a character such as "Slim Shady." It is a character, like Darth Vader speaking, not the "real" Mathers himself. (Not even necessarily when he is speaking as the Eminem character, which brings into the equation postmodern questions of identity, not unlike Mexican wrestlers, which makes the whole thing rather interesting on another level.) I suppose if you take the Bible as literal truth, you can't regard the angels as "characters," and then the comparison wouldn't be valid. The point being if you take either one literally, you're in for a world of hurt.)

(And while many of the lyrics are quite clever, I never said he was the "greatest poet," and certainly not the "greatest mind"!)

[Stone Mountain]

There is nothing artistic about Marshall Mathers.

I don't get Eminem either, but I wouldn't say there isn't anything artistic about him. That's what they said about Elvis, The Beatles, and pretty much every other pop star who came along and challenged the morals of the previous generation. People who listen to and produce a lot of hip-hop almost to a person agree that Eminem is one of the best out there. I see no reason not to believe them.

[Stone Mountain]

Eminem should be silenced.

How would you propose this be done?

[Stone Mountain]

RAP is *not* music.

Really? Is it poetry?

[LandofLincoln]

back off all of you hypocrites, this is AMERICA, EVERYBODY has freedom of speech, and expression in this country. Not just the conservatives that you agree with. I like ALL forms of music even if I do not like the entertainers themselves. But, I will ALWAYS champion the cause of protecting their right to make such music. You are showing that you are EASTERN-BLOCK FREEPERS

[Stone Mountain]

Should every person, including Cheney and Tipsy treat this with apathy?

The point that was being made was that Eminem will sell many more cds and get his message out there to a lot more people because of Lynn Cheney. Does this mean she should treat this with apathy? Not necessarily. But it does mean that if she wants to do something about the problem (and not just garner publicity for herself), she should do something that would actually be constructive. If she can't think of anything constructive, then yes, it would be better for her cause if she were to be apathetic, rather than to actively help Eminem like she is now.

[LandofLincoln]

Guess who's back, back again. Shady's back, tell a friend

[Jewels1091]

No one is saying that this person doesn't have the right to state his case...what we ARE saying is that he has NO RIGHT to be vulgar about it. He has NO right to say f@*k you to Mrs. Cheney...NONE, at all!!!!