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EMINEM BATTLES CHENEY
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Posted on 05/13/2002 6:52:27 PM PDT by Jewels1091
RapperActor Marshall Mathers, aka Eminem, fires back at Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney, in a new CD set for release next month by UNIVERSAL.
Rapping on the track WHITE AMERICA from the upcoming EMINEM SHOW, obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT, Mathers declares: "F*@k you, Miss Cheney!"
The rap attack comes after Cheney appeared before a Senate committee to condemn Eminem's music.
"Blood, guts, guns, knives, lives, wives, nuns, sluts. It is despicable. It is horrible," she said in 2000, quoting the lyrics of pop music's bad boy.
"He is a violent misogynist. He advocates raping and murdering his mother in one of his songs. He glories in the same song and the idea that he might murder any woman he comes across. He talks about how he will choke the women he murders slowly so that their screams will last for a long time."
Mathers fires back in the new song: "F*@k you with the freeness of speech this Divided States of Embarrassment will allow you to have! F*@k you!"
UNIVERSAL plans a June 4 release of the recording. It is expected to become the top-selling disc of the summer.
Not to risk being labeled a democrat shill: former VP wife/lyrics fighter Tipper Gore also comes under Eminem's rage.
"F*@k you, Tipper Gore!" repeats the Detroit native.
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To: rockfish59
**kind of hard to do when you hear the thumping crap in cars coming from a 1/2 mile away! whatever happened to noise ordinances/pollution? **
On more than a few occasions I've resorted to blasting a classical cd with my windows open to drown out the thump thump squeek of the RAP at the stop light. Wish I could conduct a Citizen's Arrest...or at least slap them upside the head.
To: X-USAF
Parental apathy. I see it often.
To: zarf
Rap isn't music. Not by a long shot.
To: homeschool mama
I've gotten tickets for noisy motorcycle mufflers but these clowns get away with it no problem.
how about a petition to outlaw it since the politico's don't seem to give a rat's @$$!
To: homeschool mama;Oschisms
lol, sorry hsmama, clicked the wrong post. My reply in #199 was to Oschisms post# 155.
To: rockfish59
I'll take a loud motorcycle over rap crap anyday. Something *does* need to be done about the rap noise in public.
To: Enlightiator
No problem, E. Thanks.
To: GussiedUp
That means "It stinks." Brush up on your reading comprehension.
And, alas, even those private universities with halfway-decent Ph.D. programs are tainted by federal dollars. My stipend (like the entire department) is largely privately endowed, if that helps.
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posted on
05/14/2002 8:01:22 PM PDT
by
Plummz
To: AmishDude
Stan is most obviously in the third person. Or are you not aware that "Slim Shady" is a character? Am I to assume you think Johnny Cash advocates romancing and murdering women named Delia?
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posted on
05/14/2002 8:03:33 PM PDT
by
Plummz
To: Plummz
The song itself is a first-person narrative. You can tell because of the occurance of "I" and "me". That it is framed in the form of a letter hardly obscures that fact. A character can easily issue a first-person narrative without being the "I" to which it refers.
To: AmishDude
Yes, in the same way that the angel michael speaks in the first person in the Revelation of John, and Darth Vader speaks in the first person in "Star Wars." Any assertion that one is a "first-person narrative" and the others are not is specious.
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posted on
05/16/2002 7:23:11 AM PDT
by
Plummz
To: Plummz
Yes, in the same way that the angel michael speaks in the first person in the Revelation of John, and Darth Vader speaks in the first person in "Star Wars." Any assertion that one is a "first-person narrative" and the others are not is specious.Wow! Have your analogies broken down or what? The Revelation to John is, in fact, a first-person work, but from the point of view of . . . get ready . . . John. Star Wars is, in fact, a third-person work in which there are many characters, Darth Vader is probably the least verbose among them.
But I concede. Why could I not have seen it before? Move over, Milton. Stand aside, Shakespeare. The greatest mind of our time is the greatest poet of all time. The great and mighty Eminem!
Forget
Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink.
Forevermore, young and old alike will recall the profound words
That's pretty sh!!!y man - you're like his f*ck!n idol.
I stand chagrined.
To: AmishDude
Yes, I am aware Revelation is a first-person narrative by John. When he speaks, he is speaking as himself. The first-person narrative in songs on "Eminem" albums is delivered by a character such as "Slim Shady." It is a character, like Darth Vader speaking, not the "real" Mathers himself. (Not even necessarily when he is speaking as the Eminem character, which brings into the equation postmodern questions of identity, not unlike Mexican wrestlers, which makes the whole thing rather interesting on another level.) I suppose if you take the Bible as literal truth, you can't regard the angels as "characters," and then the comparison wouldn't be valid. The point being if you take either one literally, you're in for a world of hurt.)
(And while many of the lyrics are quite clever, I never said he was the "greatest poet," and certainly not the "greatest mind"!)
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05/16/2002 11:18:15 AM PDT
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Plummz
To: yooper
There is nothing artistic about Marshall Mathers.
I don't get Eminem either, but I wouldn't say there isn't anything artistic about him. That's what they said about Elvis, The Beatles, and pretty much every other pop star who came along and challenged the morals of the previous generation. People who listen to and produce a lot of hip-hop almost to a person agree that Eminem is one of the best out there. I see no reason not to believe them.
To: johnfl61
Eminem should be silenced.
How would you propose this be done?
To: homeschool mama
RAP is *not* music.
Really? Is it poetry?
To: Jewels1091
back off all of you hypocrites, this is AMERICA, EVERYBODY has freedom of speech, and expression in this country. Not just the conservatives that you agree with. I like ALL forms of music even if I do not like the entertainers themselves. But, I will ALWAYS champion the cause of protecting their right to make such music. You are showing that you are EASTERN-BLOCK FREEPERS
To: homeschool mama
Should every person, including Cheney and Tipsy treat this with apathy?
The point that was being made was that Eminem will sell many more cds and get his message out there to a lot more people because of Lynn Cheney. Does this mean she should treat this with apathy? Not necessarily. But it does mean that if she wants to do something about the problem (and not just garner publicity for herself), she should do something that would actually be constructive. If she can't think of anything constructive, then yes, it would be better for her cause if she were to be apathetic, rather than to actively help Eminem like she is now.
To: homeschool mama
Guess who's back, back again. Shady's back, tell a friend
To: LandofLincoln
No one is saying that this person doesn't have the right to state his case...what we ARE saying is that he has NO RIGHT to be vulgar about it. He has NO right to say f@*k you to Mrs. Cheney...NONE, at all!!!!
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