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Stripper Mom: I'm Following The Bible
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 17, 2002

Posted on 05/17/2002 3:36:51 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee

Friday, May 17, 2002



Stripper mom: I'm following the Bible
Mother says high-paying job gives her time to teach daughter values


Posted: May 17, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

The mother of a 5-year-old California girl facing expulsion from the Christian school she attends acknowledges her job as a stripper is not one to be proud of, but says her work allows her time to follow the Bible by being a "hands-on" parent.

As WorldNetDaily reported yesterday, the mother, Christina Silvas, was called into a conference at Capital Christian School in Sacramento after school officials became aware that she works as a part-time strip-tease dancer at a local club.

Rick Cole, senior pastor of Capital Christian Church, which sponsors the school, and other staff members met with Silvas to discuss their contention that her occupation is in violation of an agreement with and commitment to the school philosophy that parents must sign before the children are admitted as students. Her daughter would have to be removed, she was told, if Silvas did not quit her job.

The officials offered to cover the girl's last month's tuition of $400 if Silvas would change jobs. They also offered to support Silvas both financially and spiritually, and to help her find a different job that was in keeping with the school's values. Silvas declined the offer.

As a requirement for admission, parents of prospective students must sign a "commitment" to support the philosophy of the school. That philosophy, in part, reads: "Emphasis is placed on learning about God and the truths of God's Word in relationship to man and his world; recognizing that the way to God comes through personal faith in Jesus Christ; and Christian maturity comes by application of the truths of the Bible in all areas of life." In signing the document, parents agree to maintain a "partnership" with the school "regarding the standards and criteria of a Christian learning structure that involves the entire family."

According to reporter George Franco of KOVR-TV, Silvas has retained legal counsel and is considering filing a motion for an immediate injunction to have the child remain in school while the mother continues to work as a stripper.

Last night, Cole and Silvas discussed the matter with Bill O'Reilly, host of "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News Channel.

"We have appealed to her to change her occupation," Cole told O'Reilly, adding that "God would bless" such a decision.

While Silvas said she agrees with the school's philosophy, she sidestepped the question of whether she considered her occupation a "sinful lifestyle."

"I am just doing it for a season," Silvas reasoned, adding, "I'm not proud of what I'm doing."

Silvas argued that since her job takes her away for only three days a week – the days her daughter, Abby, is with her father – she is therefore available to be "the one to teach [Abby] the Bible at home," thus upholding her commitment to partner with the school in her daughter's education.

"The Bible calls on parents to be hands-on," Silvas told O'Reilly. She sees her situation as better than that of a single mother who puts her child in daycare for several hours a day.

When asked if it was fair that the school's actions were, in effect, punishing the daughter, Cole put the responsibility for the expulsion on the mother.

"My concern is, who is the cause of this consequence?" he asked. "The consequence of [Silvas'] choice is affecting her daughter adversely."

None of the participants in the televised segment talked about the possibility of litigation. Silvas did mention, however, that she hoped to find a new job soon and that people outside Capital Christian Church had offered to help her find work.

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To: dpa5923
I'm amazed at the comparison's some of you people use, your telling me that you think that stripping is as bad a thing as Abortion & adults who are having sex with kids and your saying that anybody that is reasonable can see this. You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself some very serious questions if you think that these are equal acts my friend.
181 posted on 05/17/2002 7:35:50 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Hunble
Having sex with those women is a totally different matter!

Matthew 5:
[28]But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

If she is putting herself in a profession that encourages men to lust after her, then she has had sex with them.

-Kevin

182 posted on 05/17/2002 7:37:33 AM PDT by ksen
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To: GuillermoX
HAHA!! I can't believe you fell for the "I'm doing it to pay for College" line.

Friend, strippers do do it for the money, but it's so they can buy cocaine. The vast majority of them are coke heads.


OK, I usually don't post to threads like this, however this statement right here caught my attention.

Do you, personally, know ANY strippers? Do you have friends that know any strippers personally?

Well, I do. And the funny thing is, NONE of them are on crack/coke/extacy/etc! And come to think of it, they are *gasp* really using the money to pay for their college educations! To large, expensive ones that their parents couldn't pay for, and neither could they.

So, instead of begging the government for money to send them through college, or being in debt up to their eyeballs in student loans, they used a resource that they already had, and decided to make money LEGALLY by being an exotic dancer.

Now we have a mother, obviously divorced or a single mom. Instead of being on welfare and/or harassing her daughter's dad for money, she dances for the 3 nights a week that her little girl is with her dad (says the mom).

Let's see...making her own money...kid's not home when she goes to the club...helps provide her kid a better life...she gets to be a stay-at-home mom...

Then you don't even know what type of extablishment she works for. Could be a sleazy crackhouse type of strip bar, but I'm willing to bet it's not a full-nude club, perhaps it's even a gown club or a Gentleman's Club.

Let's throw this one out, just for discussion. Let's say she quits being a stripper, goes down to the local assistance office, and gets food stamps/welfare/etc. Happy now? I'm willing to bet that you'd be doing the same amount of whining.

Put me down as: one more for the mom.
183 posted on 05/17/2002 7:38:49 AM PDT by KimaraChan
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To: HELLRAISER II
I'm amazed at the comparison's some of you people use, your telling me that you think that stripping is as bad a thing as Abortion & adults who are having sex with kids and your saying that anybody that is reasonable can see this. You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself some very serious questions if you think that these are equal acts my friend.

No one is saying, as you seemed to read, that these acts are all equally horrific. What they all share is that they are acts inconsistent with a self-professed Christianity.

SD

184 posted on 05/17/2002 7:38:56 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: L.N. Smithee
Christians not only have every right to exclude from their membership people who choose to exibit poor moral choices, but are commanded to do so.

Titus 2:11 "For the Grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. Teaching us that denying ungodliness and wordly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world. Looking for that blessed hope, and the appearing of the great God and our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exort with great authority. Let no man despise you. Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work.

This tells Christians to not be shy about demanding their right to fit this description and ask those that wish to associate with their membership to do the same. The bible also tells Christians to put away from their midsts those that will not repent. Not out of malice, but that God may give them over to Satan which may draw them to repentence and salvation of their souls.

1 Timothy 1:20 "Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

The problem with Christians today is that they most don't know who they are or what is expected of them. This Church doesn't seem to have this problem. They are not only within their rights, but within God's will. They don't hate this woman, she has made her choice and they have made their's, the two are not compatible, so she needs to make another choice or move on.

185 posted on 05/17/2002 7:41:26 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: KimaraChan
Let's throw this one out, just for discussion. Let's say she quits being a stripper, goes down to the local assistance office, and gets food stamps/welfare/etc. Happy now? I'm willing to bet that you'd be doing the same amount of whining.

Put me down as: one more for the mom.

You could try reading the article. The school offered to assist the mother finaicially and otherwise, if she would find a more suitable profession. She refused the offer. Try reading the article.

SD

186 posted on 05/17/2002 7:42:22 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: TightSqueeze
It should be against the law to willfully become an indentured servant simply by attempting to provide an education for your offspring. No one should have to sign away their rights to educate their family. The school is holding a child’s education hostage by demanding arbitrary behavior from a free and law abiding citizen and this practice should be halted.

So you would do away with freedom of association? That's good to know.

This woman does not have a constitutional right to have her daughter attend this particular school. However, this private school does have the right to exclude people for whatever reason they see fit, so long as they don't violate our current civil rights laws.

We may not agree with what they did or how they did it, but they were perfectly within their rights.

-Kevin

187 posted on 05/17/2002 7:43:23 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Central Scrutiniser
The only "Christian Values" I see from the school and many posters is to point and condemn what they call "Sinners" and not give a rat's ass about the child. Hypocrisy is thick..

Especially when it comes from libertarian types who love the free market until it bumps up against their version of political correctness.

She made a contract, she violated it, and she refused to changes when offered a way around it. End of story.

189 posted on 05/17/2002 7:46:27 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: ksen
O.K. I want to hear from you men out there on their soap box that have never once looked at woman that they weren't married to and have never thought about seeing another woman naked or having sex with her. I don't think that you exist because it is human to lust, however it's also human and christian to control those lusts & keep from acting on them. But if you say that you have never thought about another woman that way that was not your wife, I say most would be lying.
190 posted on 05/17/2002 7:47:22 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: SoothingDave
It's kind of nice being on the same side for a change. ;^)

-Kevin

191 posted on 05/17/2002 7:47:47 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Guns4va
Want to bet that the Pastor's offer of "help" included issueing her kneepads? What a slimeball.

[Knocking my fist on your head] Hello! Hello! Think, McFly, Think!

If Silvas had that much leverage, saying that they attempted to squeeze some action out of her and then bounced her kid when she refused, that would be sexual harassment!

THAT would be something to sue about. THAT would be hypocrisy. THAT would be news.

192 posted on 05/17/2002 7:48:11 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: SoothingDave
If ya'll don't think that their equal why do I keep hearing the same comparisons.
193 posted on 05/17/2002 7:48:31 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: SoothingDave
You could try reading the article. The school offered to assist the mother finaicially and otherwise, if she would find a more suitable profession. She refused the offer. Try reading the article.

Aren't you sweet. :-) Thank you for making sure I read the entire article. Don't worry, I did.

They offered to help get her a new job, and they offered to pay her daughter's tuition for ONE month, equalling about 400 dollars in financial assistance. Sorry, I don't see that as much financial help, and I'm sure she doesn't either, given the fact that she probably makes that in an hour or 2. And it's all good to say "sure we'll help you financially", but I've gotten offers for financial help too. Let's just say they usually don't come through.

Next!
194 posted on 05/17/2002 7:52:57 AM PDT by KimaraChan
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To: KimaraChan
Yes, I did know a stripper, as my old roomate dated one. Her name is Heidi and her stage name was "Alexis". She danced (maybe still does) at a club on Buford Highway, in Atlanta. She was a cokehead. Her stripper friends were cokeheads. They would come over to the house and snort cocaine at about 4 or 5 in the morning, after they finished their gigs. This was aftersnorting coke in the dressing room of the club. They spent much of their money on cocaine (and crank, and X and weed).

I don't believe you when you say that none of the strippers you know do drugs. And I certainly don't believe you when you say they "all" use it for college. In my opinion, that's a bunch of BS.

195 posted on 05/17/2002 7:53:21 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: HELLRAISER II
O.K. I want to hear from you men out there on their soap box that have never once looked at woman that they weren't married to and have never thought about seeing another woman naked or having sex with her. I don't think that you exist because it is human to lust, however it's also human and christian to control those lusts & keep from acting on them. But if you say that you have never thought about another woman that way that was not your wife, I say most would be lying.

Do you have a point?

Yes, people sin, even those who call themselves Christian. What we do not (or should not) do is actively engage in a lifestyle that is steeped in sin and that encourages sin in others. There is a difference, a vast difference, between setting out to avoid sin and failing; and deliberately maintaining oneself in his sin. Repentence means "turning away."

SD

196 posted on 05/17/2002 7:56:06 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: HELLRAISER II
O.K. I want to hear from you men out there on their soap box that have never once looked at woman that they weren't married to and have never thought about seeing another woman naked or having sex with her. I don't think that you exist because it is human to lust, however it's also human and christian to control those lusts & keep from acting on them. But if you say that you have never thought about another woman that way that was not your wife, I say most would be lying.

My lifetime spans five decades and I have countless times looked at women that way. I pray for forgiveness, and I do my best to control those lusts. But the difference between me and "Christians" like Christina Silvas is that there isn't enough money in the world to make me induce lust in other people for a living. My integrity cannot be bought with small bills.

197 posted on 05/17/2002 7:56:33 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: anniegetyourgun
In what way?
198 posted on 05/17/2002 7:56:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: HELLRAISER II
If ya'll don't think that their equal why do I keep hearing the same comparisons.

Becuase the arguments for one are the same as the arguments for the other. It would be a lot easier if you just said "I don't think stripping is a sin." Then we would have things out in the open.

SD

199 posted on 05/17/2002 7:57:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: KimaraChan
Let's throw this one out, just for discussion. Let's say she quits being a stripper, goes down to the local assistance office, and gets food stamps/welfare/etc. Happy now? I'm willing to bet that you'd be doing the same amount of whining.

The whining I would be doing would be about her deadbeat ex.

200 posted on 05/17/2002 7:59:54 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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