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Stripper Mom: I'm Following The Bible
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 17, 2002

Posted on 05/17/2002 3:36:51 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee

Friday, May 17, 2002



Stripper mom: I'm following the Bible
Mother says high-paying job gives her time to teach daughter values


Posted: May 17, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

The mother of a 5-year-old California girl facing expulsion from the Christian school she attends acknowledges her job as a stripper is not one to be proud of, but says her work allows her time to follow the Bible by being a "hands-on" parent.

As WorldNetDaily reported yesterday, the mother, Christina Silvas, was called into a conference at Capital Christian School in Sacramento after school officials became aware that she works as a part-time strip-tease dancer at a local club.

Rick Cole, senior pastor of Capital Christian Church, which sponsors the school, and other staff members met with Silvas to discuss their contention that her occupation is in violation of an agreement with and commitment to the school philosophy that parents must sign before the children are admitted as students. Her daughter would have to be removed, she was told, if Silvas did not quit her job.

The officials offered to cover the girl's last month's tuition of $400 if Silvas would change jobs. They also offered to support Silvas both financially and spiritually, and to help her find a different job that was in keeping with the school's values. Silvas declined the offer.

As a requirement for admission, parents of prospective students must sign a "commitment" to support the philosophy of the school. That philosophy, in part, reads: "Emphasis is placed on learning about God and the truths of God's Word in relationship to man and his world; recognizing that the way to God comes through personal faith in Jesus Christ; and Christian maturity comes by application of the truths of the Bible in all areas of life." In signing the document, parents agree to maintain a "partnership" with the school "regarding the standards and criteria of a Christian learning structure that involves the entire family."

According to reporter George Franco of KOVR-TV, Silvas has retained legal counsel and is considering filing a motion for an immediate injunction to have the child remain in school while the mother continues to work as a stripper.

Last night, Cole and Silvas discussed the matter with Bill O'Reilly, host of "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News Channel.

"We have appealed to her to change her occupation," Cole told O'Reilly, adding that "God would bless" such a decision.

While Silvas said she agrees with the school's philosophy, she sidestepped the question of whether she considered her occupation a "sinful lifestyle."

"I am just doing it for a season," Silvas reasoned, adding, "I'm not proud of what I'm doing."

Silvas argued that since her job takes her away for only three days a week – the days her daughter, Abby, is with her father – she is therefore available to be "the one to teach [Abby] the Bible at home," thus upholding her commitment to partner with the school in her daughter's education.

"The Bible calls on parents to be hands-on," Silvas told O'Reilly. She sees her situation as better than that of a single mother who puts her child in daycare for several hours a day.

When asked if it was fair that the school's actions were, in effect, punishing the daughter, Cole put the responsibility for the expulsion on the mother.

"My concern is, who is the cause of this consequence?" he asked. "The consequence of [Silvas'] choice is affecting her daughter adversely."

None of the participants in the televised segment talked about the possibility of litigation. Silvas did mention, however, that she hoped to find a new job soon and that people outside Capital Christian Church had offered to help her find work.

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To: TheCPA
What if the parent violated the contract?

At what point does the school get to say your conduct is not in keeping with our Christian charter, please change your actions or change your school choice.

Please remember folks, the school offered a months free tutition, and job placement/networking help. I've know kids to get kid out of parochial schools because the parents didn't attend church enough.

321 posted on 05/17/2002 11:34:20 AM PDT by dpa5923
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To: L.N. Smithee
(I am not referring to L. N. Smithee) For anyone who is not a Christian to be posting an opinion on this matter is the same as commenting on calculus when you've never taken math. To live the life of a Christian involves a belief system that, by definition, is much more than subcribing to a set of "rules." For centuries there have been individuals commenting for instance on the things of the Bible having never read it or at minimum, read some passage(s). To anyone with a modicum of intelligence that is unacceptable. It's so easy to point at Christians and mock them for their beliefs and the lives they try to live while existing in this world. We don't claim to be perfect, it is the opinion of non-Christians that we do. Just look at what the secularists have accomplished eliminating God from the earth. Yes, this woman is as wrong as wrong can be for a Christian. You cannot claim a belief system and then violate it. Her faith in God to provide for her and her daughter is nearly non-existent. There are endless stories of God's provision in the worst of circumstances, however you have to know and believe that He will do what He says He will.
322 posted on 05/17/2002 11:45:19 AM PDT by elephantlips
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To: dpa5923
You are obviously unable to understand the different layers of a discussion such as this.

The subtitles were not lost with me, here is what I believe a good, smart, OK slick lawyer will discover that there is a double standard operating at the school. He will uncover an incident where a corrupt politician, crooked cop or convicted businessman’s kid was attending school and was allowed to stay, how do I know this, there is always a double standard at places like this, and that what pisses me off.

Do you have it?

323 posted on 05/17/2002 11:51:19 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: TightSqueeze
Was their a double standard? I don't know and niether do you. I will however accept the English common law standard and assume the school innocent until proven otherwise.

Even if a double standard did exist somewhere, that is irrelevant to the disscussion at hand. She breached a contract, the school was no longer required to honor it. The school went out of it's way to recify the situation. The parent refuse.

God didn't have to say it, I do believe in the rule of law for everyone, Case closed, next.

324 posted on 05/17/2002 12:13:56 PM PDT by dpa5923
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To: GussiedUp
Well under normal circumstances being called Clinton like would be fighting words but I knew when I took this side I would be attacked, but that's alright. Just for the record a blow job is sex in my opinion and Clinton was very immoral just like this woman would be, if theres anything other than stripping going on. I think that this could have been handled diffrently than it was, I don't think that the contract was specific enough and some of you think that i'm skirting the issues. But you know what, to some drinking beer is immoral and as a matter of fact it offended the Southern Baptists so much in my little town that you can't buy alcohol in the city limits. Some of you may say "Well whats wrong with that." and that is exactly my point of my whole argument with most of you here. What is immoral & what is not? We all seem
325 posted on 05/17/2002 12:24:47 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: dpa5923
No, what the school did was expel her child & told her to find a new job or else and then sugar coated it with what they termed helping her find a job. That doesn't sound like a choice, that sounds like an order to me.
326 posted on 05/17/2002 12:28:29 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: dpa5923
I will however accept the English common law standard and assume the school innocent until proven otherwise.

How charitable, you will not need to extend this standard to the woman or child, as they have broken no law. As far as breach of contract is concerned, this is merely hearsay on your part, I doubt the clause said “parents will not be allowed to dance naked in a public place for money”, do you?
It will require someone to study the contract, and determine if a breach really did occur, but obviously you have condemned her already.

327 posted on 05/17/2002 12:30:22 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: HELLRAISER II
And i'm telling you that if looking at a woman and thinking about sex or her naked is a sinful, then were all in deep doo doo and i'm definately in trouble because I think that women are beautiful and I can't help but think such things on occasion. Don't get me wrong, I don't look at every woman and say Man I'd like to do her, but sometimes someone catches your eye & get's your attention. I refuse to believe that makes me a bad person nor do I think it's sinful to look as long as you don't touch and that's why I don't have a problem with her stripping, damn it man I'm human & so are you.

Indeed. And it is this very human tendency to look at women like this, and all of the other tiny little flaws we have that point out the need we have for a Savior.

SD

328 posted on 05/17/2002 12:33:58 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: TheCPA
Well, I am not socialist, and I view expelling the child as punishing the child for the mom's behavior. If the mom were a student at a Christian school, it would be a different matter. However, expelling the child is indeed depriving the child of an education in that school and constitutes a rejection of the child for the mom's behavior. I think doing so is totally contrary to the Bible that one should not be actively punished for another's wrongs. Certainly, the actions of parents and others have an effect on children.

Some people actually believe that educating a child is the responsibility of both the parents and the schools. The school, in this case, is making the well-justified determination that the mother has no desire whatsoever to live a Christian life. Any attempt to teach a Christian worldview will be counteracted by the actions of the mother. It is simply futile to have the parent and school working at ends with one another. It is confusing for the child and it is a waste of space and resources for the school.

SD

329 posted on 05/17/2002 12:41:45 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
At last something that we can agree on, I knew we could meet half way somewhere. :)
330 posted on 05/17/2002 12:45:07 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: TightSqueeze
It's a private school and being such it can do whatever it darn pleases. She broke the rules, rules she had said she would hold to in that agreement she signed. It's too bad the child has to pay for the mother's behavior. The mother has just been deceived by the enemy of her soul who wants to destroy her and her child. Seems to me that the school officials tried to help and she turned it down.
331 posted on 05/17/2002 12:45:34 PM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: SoothingDave
I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
332 posted on 05/17/2002 12:48:16 PM PDT by TheCPA
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To: TightSqueeze
Unless there is a clear violation of the law, I would respectively suggest the school go pound sand.

Your socialist indoctrination is showing. The school has the right to refuse to conduct business with anyone it chooses, for any reason, at any time.

"Civil Rights" in the private (non-governmental) sphere is wishful thinking, not true rights at all (even in the case of race, religion, etc) -- despite what the laws say.

333 posted on 05/17/2002 12:49:39 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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To: Hunble
It is window shopping. Look, but never touch!
Bingo. It's like going to a fancy restaurant to smell the food, and paying mucho dinero to do so.

Having known more than a few strippers, I know what they think of the guys that go in there. The term "cash machine with legs" comes to mind.

-Eric

334 posted on 05/17/2002 12:54:45 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: L.N. Smithee
Tragic for the little girl, but I can't blame the school. I believe school officials are trying to do the right thing, not only for the girl & her mom but for their entire private educational community (other students, parents, teachers, etc.). Now if only the mother would decide to do the right thing for her child.
335 posted on 05/17/2002 12:57:06 PM PDT by k2blader
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To: GussiedUp
Let's see. Exchanging money for sexual favors. Yep, sounds like prostitution.

Exactly. Men don't frequent strip joints for the stimulating conversation.

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess again!!!!

I have a buddy who worked at a strip joint as a bouncer. He was about 6'5", 300+ lbs, and a fascinating man. In addition to being a fellow gun nut, his politics were, like mine, to the right of Godzilla.

I used to stop at the strip joint after working late at night, on a regular basis, *just* for the stimulating conversation. I quit going there after he left.

FWIW, I got to know some of the dancers, and 90% of them were there because of how well it paid.

It's all the result of men marrying women who won't dance naked for them... so make sure you marry one who will.

336 posted on 05/17/2002 12:58:01 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: elephantlips
For anyone who is not a Christian to be posting an opinion on this matter is the same as commenting on calculus when you've never taken math.
That's like saying that a lawyer who opposed the passage of a specific measure can't use it in any future court cases, because he doesn't agree it should be law.

I suspect most Christians would agree that there are some people who simply use the Christian religion as a cover for their own gut feelings and prejudices. When their actions or proposals counter the written words of their faith, its fair to point it out.

-Eric

337 posted on 05/17/2002 12:59:10 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: mindprism.com
The school has the right to refuse to conduct business with anyone it chooses, for any reason, at any time.

I truly doubt that the school is exempt from laws that have been put in place to prevent discrimination? Let a court of law decide.

338 posted on 05/17/2002 1:01:55 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: BibChr
Just another Clintonian case of listen-to-my-mouth-but-ignore-my-behavior.

If my memory is correct that was the problem with twisted worldview of the Neo-Platonists: It doesn't matter what you do with your body as long as your spirit remains pure.

339 posted on 05/17/2002 1:03:52 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dataman
Neo-Platonists

I believe you are confusing them with the Gnostics.

340 posted on 05/17/2002 1:06:51 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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