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1 posted on 05/23/2002 5:52:52 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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This is a really good article and points to the solidarity between Jews and Christians.

I hope that the Jewish voting bloc starts to understand that the frivolous charges by demoSTUPIDs that conservatives are antisemitic is total BUNK!

This is just another reason why the demoNUGGETs are as desperate as they are.

3 posted on 05/23/2002 6:06:28 AM PDT by mattdono
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Q: How did Israel become a favorite cause of the Christian Right?

A: Jesus was a Jew.


5 posted on 05/23/2002 6:08:36 AM PDT by ppaul
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9 posted on 05/23/2002 6:24:33 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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What the author failed to mention ( out of politeness ? ) was that some of the "Conservative Religious Right" devoutly believe supporting just about anything and everything Israel does will lead to a prophesied (?) wholesale conversion of Jews to Christianity .

From what I've read,this has led to considerable alarm among Jews;but, needing all the help they can get, they have been polite to people they consider almost as much of a threat to Israel as the Muslims.

10 posted on 05/23/2002 6:33:33 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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How Israel Became a Favorite Cause Of the Conservative Christian Right

and how Arafat, Castro, and Red China became a favorite cause of the Liberal Left.

15 posted on 05/23/2002 6:52:19 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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The WSJ has not been a great friend of Israel. This article appears to have a bias. It makes it appear that the support that Israel has gotten from conservative Christians comes from the cunning and wiles of Israeli lobbyists as well as the self-serving ambitions of Republican politicians.

It ignores the fact that Israel's support may have come because its cause is just. Israel's growing support also has a lot to do with the fact that after 9/11, many Americans can see that this nation is as much a target for Islamic hatred and destruction as Israel is.

We have gotten glimpses behind the curtain to see who are true enemies are, and now have some understanding of Islamic speak, and truly understand what is meant by "after Saturday, comes Sunday."

39 posted on 05/23/2002 7:35:24 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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40 posted on 05/23/2002 7:35:27 AM PDT by VOA
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Conservatives support Israel because Israel is right. Conservatives support Israel because Israel is under attack, not the Arabs. Conservatives support Israel because Israel is the only responsible, reliable, pro-American, western Democracy in one of the most dismally oppressive areas of the world.

Further, conservatives, most of whom in the U.S. are Christians, make the cultural and religious connection between the Jewish Christ and the Jewish roots of Christianity, and the fact that the God of the Old Testament, the God of Israel, is also the Christian God.

Further, most conservatives, being intelligent and well read historically, are aware of the past record and current practise of what has got to be the most vile, violent, and intolerant religious cult to have ever existed, and the writings and behavior of its founder: Islam.

As for most American Jews being liberal Democrats, this has been true in the past and is true at present. However, Orthodox and Hassidic Jews tend to vote conservative because their value systems and morality are more reflective of conservative values.

The balance of American Jews tend to be liberal and Democratic because their ancestors came over here at a time when the Republican Party and the conservative elements of the Democratic Party were run by racists who wanted to exclude immigrants from eastern and southern Europe from the American social and political scene, and that included most Jewish immigrants. On the other hand, the corrupt political machines of the inner cities, where most of these people settled, were run by Democrats, and they welcomed anybody's vote and repaid them with patronage, while indoctrinating them with propaganda about evil Anglo-robber barons and the political party which represented them - the Republicans. This was also the case with many Italian and Irish and Polish immigrants.

HOWEVER, times and people have changed. And the propaganda spun by the Democratics is wearing thin, even on its most recent victims, the Hispanics and Blacks. For very many of these people, as for very many Jews, family values mean something, as does the American Dream, fundamental human freedom, and the right to live without onerous government control in an environment free of predatory criminals, perverts and illegal invaders.

Consequently, the Republican Party, if it remains true to its conservative roots, supports the correct party, n this case Israel, and uses some intelligent stratgies, can really bury the Socialistic homophilic, atheistic, anti-American zoo which has become the Democratic party.

The support for Israel by America's religious conservatives is merely the first step. By active recruiting among new immigrant groups, like some of the Hispanics, Asians, etc, who are small business owners, hard workers, and people with strong family values, they can destroy the liberal Democrats.

The Truth Shall Make Us Free.

46 posted on 05/23/2002 7:39:14 AM PDT by ZULU
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Conservatives support Israel because Israel is right. Conservatives support Israel because Israel is under attack, not the Arabs. Conservatives support Israel because Israel is the only responsible, reliable, pro-American, western Democracy in one of the most dismally oppressive areas of the world.

Further, conservatives, most of whom in the U.S. are Christians, make the cultural and religious connection between the Jewish Christ and the Jewish roots of Christianity, and the fact that the God of the Old Testament, the God of Israel, is also the Christian God.

Further, most conservatives, being intelligent and well read historically, are aware of the past record and current practise of what has got to be the most vile, violent, and intolerant religious cult to have ever existed, and the writings and behavior of its founder: Islam.

As for most American Jews being liberal Democrats, this has been true in the past and is true at present. However, Orthodox and Hassidic Jews tend to vote conservative because their value systems and morality are more reflective of conservative values.

The balance of American Jews tend to be liberal and Democratic because their ancestors came over here at a time when the Republican Party and the conservative elements of the Democratic Party were run by racists who wanted to exclude immigrants from eastern and southern Europe from the American social and political scene, and that included most Jewish immigrants. On the other hand, the corrupt political machines of the inner cities, where most of these people settled, were run by Democrats, and they welcomed anybody's vote and repaid them with patronage, while indoctrinating them with propaganda about evil Anglo-robber barons and the political party which represented them - the Republicans. This was also the case with many Italian and Irish and Polish immigrants.

HOWEVER, times and people have changed. And the propaganda spun by the Democratics is wearing thin, even on its most recent victims, the Hispanics and Blacks. For very many of these people, as for very many Jews, family values mean something, as does the American Dream, fundamental human freedom, and the right to live without onerous government control in an environment free of predatory criminals, perverts and illegal invaders.

Consequently, the Republican Party, if it remains true to its conservative roots, supports the correct party, n this case Israel, and uses some intelligent stratgies, can really bury the Socialistic homophilic, atheistic, anti-American zoo which has become the Democratic party.

The support for Israel by America's religious conservatives is merely the first step. By active recruiting among new immigrant groups, like some of the Hispanics, Asians, etc, who are small business owners, hard workers, and people with strong family values, they can destroy the liberal Democrats.

The Truth Shall Make Us Free.

47 posted on 05/23/2002 7:39:26 AM PDT by ZULU
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Grateful "chosen" person BTTT
53 posted on 05/23/2002 7:56:37 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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Advocates for Israel, who once looked to liberal Democrats as the bulwark of U.S. support, now find equally conspicuous support from conservative Christian Republicans they once suspected of intolerance or even anti-Semitism.

...from Conservative agnostics, like myself, as well who have always been a supporter.

I have to admit, I don't understand this labelling of Conservatives as being intolerant of Jews or anti-Semitic. Even amongst my Conservative Christian and Catholic friends, I've heard nary a negative word about the Jews or their right to defend themselves. It seems to be more of a media-fed phenomenon than an actuality. Of course it is perpetuated by the liberal Jews who continue the mantra. Am I incorrect, naive, sheltered, or a combination of all of the above?

54 posted on 05/23/2002 7:59:58 AM PDT by LoneGOPinCT
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Near Memphis, a group of Christian activists recently raised more than $100,000 and presented a new ambulance to the Baron Hirsch synagogue, which arranged for it to be shipped to Israel.

Raising money to send a ambulance to Israel. Maybe the Christians are supporting Israel because it needs help. Maybe they support Israel because they ARE Christians.

There is something about the Israelis and how are conducting themselves that is truly touching and inspiring. As for the forces arrayed against them, well Arafat, the Saudi and European Left are despicable. That's probably the answer to Christian evangelical support.

77 posted on 05/23/2002 9:41:04 AM PDT by ARCADIA
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When Matthew Eastburn was a toddler, Mr. McAteer brought a Christian Holocaust survivor to Memphis to tell members of Bellevue Baptist and other churches how her family in Holland had helped save Jews from the Nazis. As a child in grade school, Mr. Eastburn recalls, he watched a church-produced video of her story called "The Hiding Place."
 
I take it they're referring to Corrie Ten Boom. Why don't they state the name?

92 posted on 05/23/2002 4:50:57 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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That title is very stupid.
97 posted on 05/23/2002 7:11:46 PM PDT by exnavy
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All sounds good except for the part about the Anti-Defamation League. No Christian (or Jew for that matter) should ever donate any money to that band of opportunists. They may stand with us on Israel, but they are liberals on everything else.
110 posted on 06/02/2002 4:00:49 PM PDT by Michael2001
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The activism by the part-time college student was part of an extraordinary political alliance that has burst into view during the current Mideast crisis. Advocates for Israel, who once looked to liberal Democrats as the bulwark of U.S. support, now find equally conspicuous support from conservative Christian Republicans they once suspected of intolerance or even anti-Semitism.

There has been no 'shift', it's always been that way, at least with the people I know.

Liberals are nothing more than friends of convenience; they use various groups against each other with the furtherance of their own goals being the primary consideration. Yes, the liberals will protect everybody from each other.........they remind me of some pyromaniac who likes to start fires, then show up on the scene playing 'hero'.......

........all they've really been doing is trumpeting in their lying press all along is how the Christians hate the Jews, we'll kill them, have another Holocaust, etc.............

..........now they act as if it's some big 'revelation' that Christians are supportive of Israel. Hmpf.....

112 posted on 06/02/2002 4:12:08 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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