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I have never worked on or managed a solution that failed because a Microsoft product failed to perform, and I have produced a variety of large and small systems, mostly using Microsoft products and technologies.

You once before claimed to have built a .NET system that no one else has, and refused to give any details then. I didn't believe you then, either.

You do realize that by far the majority of developers will *NOT* use MS products for real work?

The statement that you've never had an MS product fail you means you've not built any serious systems with MS products -- period. MS products have created so many problems for us even when set up by MS people directly. I've lost so many hours to dealing with problems with MS pieces of systems . . . and you've never had one problem, you claim.

Sounds like a sales pitch to me. Quite a tall tale.

SQLServer and IIS alone account for so many problems it's professional incompetence to use them for serious work, for goodness sake!

You've never had IIS crash? Or SQLServer migration problems? Or MSProject problems -- which are so numerous there's not space to list them?

Most developers don't use MS solutions. Most web servers are NOT IIS. Only very few developers use MS solutions, relatively. And those developers seem to use MS solutions for one of two reasons -- they're paid to, or they simply don't know better solutions are available.

You claim to never have had MS solutions crap out on you? How much actual work have done?

The statement that you've never had an MS product fail you means you've not built any serious systems with MS products -- period. MS products have created so many problems for us even when set up by MS people directly. I've lost so many hours to dealing with problems with MS pieces of systems . . . and you've never had one problem, you claim.

Don't lay your failures at everyone else's door, Harr. Just because you can't get your sh*t together doesn't mean that everyone can't do it, either. Maybe you should consider changing careers. I hear that McDonald's is hiring...

SQLServer and IIS alone account for so many problems it's professional incompetence to use them for serious work, for goodness sake!

I will grant you IIS; however, you're grossly exaggerating about SQL Server.

Most developers don't use MS solutions. Most web servers are NOT IIS. Only very few developers use MS solutions, relatively. And those developers seem to use MS solutions for one of two reasons -- they're paid to, or they simply don't know better solutions are available.

I guess MS must have been paid $1B in play money then ... because that's how much SQL Server earned over the past year.

"You do realize that by far the majority of developers will *NOT* use MS products for real work?"

The vast majority of your friends, but not developers. Are you saying that Microsoft, a $40+ billion company, is suceeding far beyond that failure of a company, Sun, whose stock is, what, $6, and that is because "the vast majority of developers" are using Java? Get real.

“The statement that you've never had an MS product fail you means you've not built any serious systems with MS products – period”

Harr, that comment suggests that you are sticking your head in the sand and just hoping like Hell that you are right. The fact is, Microsoft TecEd itself has 10,000 attendees. What, is that 10,000 non-serious developers?

Your problem is that you do nothing serious with Java, and, therefore, you haven’t experienced problems, yourself. Horror story after horror story comes from the Java field. Microsoft has its problems, but it work more than well enough for me to provide serious solutions without failure.

Again, I have NEVER had a failure of a Microsoft product that prevented or serious impaired my ability to deliver the solution as promised. Never. Java has. Oracle and UNIX, never. The fact is Java is the most problematic environment, period, and your fear and ignorance keeps you from looking at Microsoft as anything but a competitor you wish to stomp out of existence. Get used to .NET being around. It works and damned well.

SQL Server doesn't work?

Rank	Company	System	tpmC	Price/tpmC	System Availability	Database	Operating System	TP Monitor	Date Submitted	Cluster
1		ProLiant DL760-900-256P	709,220	14.96 US $	10/15/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	09/19/01	Y
2		IBM e(logo) xSeries 370 c/s	688,220	22.58 US $	05/31/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server	Microsoft COM+	04/10/01	Y
3		ProLiant DL760-900-192P	567,882	14.04 US $	10/15/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	09/19/01	Y
4		PRIMEPOWER 2000 c/s w 66 Front-Ends	455,818	28.58 US $	02/28/02	SymfoWARE Server Enterp. Ed. VLM 3.0	Sun Solaris 8	BEA Tuxedo 6.5 CFS	08/28/01	N
5		IBM e(logo) xSeries 370 c/s	440,879	19.35 US $	12/07/00	IBM DB2 UDB 7.1	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	04/11/01	Y
6		ProLiant DL760-900-128P	410,769	13.02 US $	10/15/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	09/19/01	Y
7		IBM eServer pSeries 690 Turbo 7040-681	403,255	19.51 US $	11/22/02	Oracle 9i R2 Enterprise Edition	IBM AIX 5L V5.2	Webshpere App. Server Ent. Edition V.3.0	05/22/02	N
8		HP 9000 Superdome Enterprise Server	389,434	21.24 US $	05/15/02	Oracle 9i Database Enterprise Edition	HP UX 11.i 64-bit	BEA Tuxedo 6.4	12/21/01	N
9		IBM e(logo) xSeries 370 c/s	363,129	21.80 US $	05/31/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server	Microsoft COM+	04/10/01	Y
10		Compaq AlphaServer GS320	230,533	44.62 US $	07/30/01	Oracle 9i Database Enterprise Edition	Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1	Compaq DB Web Connector V1.1	06/18/01	N