US Coast Guard New Rules to Fight Terrorism Announced

US Coast Guard Press Release ^ | May 28, 2002 | US Coast Guard Vice Adm. James D. Hull

[Semper911]

Yeah, the constitution covers every possible situation. That's all we need. Uh huh.

Should your boat go down, I will still pull your ass out of the water.

[Carry_Okie]

Yeah, the constitution covers every possible situation.

Well the founders did anticipate this kind of problem, but they didn't believe that the people would be stupid enough to let regulatory government get this far. You are clearly a little young yet to understand this and definitely short on your knowledge of history, but perhaps you should consider why it is that after tens of trillions of dollars of military expenditure, the only plane that didn't hit its target was brought down by the militia. Had it been left up to the military the White House would be a large hole in the ground.

Should your boat go down, I will still pull your ass out of the water.

Which shows just how little you understand free markets. The only reason there aren't private towing and rescue companies at sea funded by maritime insurance is that they would have to compete with the Coast Guard which operates on tax money and does the job for free.

Now, how about those container ships?

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Average Day
Source: G-IPA

Each day, the men and women of the 35,000 plus active duty Coast Guard, 8,000 Reservists and 32,000 Auxiliarists provide services over 3.4 million square miles of Exclusive Economic Zones...

• Conduct 109 Search and Rescue Cases.
• Save 10 lives.
• Assist 192 people in distress.
• Protect $2,791,841 in property.
• Small boats are underway for 396 sorties/missions.
• Aircraft fly 164 missions, logging 324 hours, of which 19 hrs are flown off patrolling cutters.
• Law enforcement teams board 144 vessels.
• Seize 169 pounds of marijuana and 306 pounds of cocaine worth $9,589,000.00.
• Seize 1 drug smuggling vessel every five days
• Cutter and small boat crews interdict and rescue 14 illegal migrants.
• Marine Safety personnel open 8 new cases for marine violation of federal statutes
• Process 238 Seaman licenses and documents.
• Marine Inspectors board 100 large vessels for port safety checks.
• Vessel examiners conduct 20 commercial fishing vessel safety exams and issue 11 fishing vessel compliance decals.
• Pollution investigators respond to 20 oil or hazardous chemical spills totaling 2,800 gallons.
• Investigate 6 vessel casualties involving collisions, allisions or groundings.
• Buoy tenders and Aids to Navigational Teams service 135 aids to navigation.
• Vessel Traffic Service controllers assist 2,509 commercial ships entering & leaving U.S. ports.
• Icebreakers and buoy tenders assist 196,938 tons of shipping daily during the Great Lakes ice season.
• International Ice Patrol sorties provide ice safety information to facilitate the 163,238 tons of shipping during the North Atlantic ice season.
• Auxiliarists conduct 377 vessel safety checks and teach boating safety courses to 550 boaters.

[sharkdiver]

I was in the U S Coast Guard for four years trained as a radioman. I also used to go to the local small boat station and became a small boat operator for search and rescue calls. I left the service and took the exam and became acharter boat Captain. I have seen both situations while serving on a boarding crew and having my charter boat boarded for a safety inspection. Coast Guard personnel are trained to be courteous and professional at all times. It always amazed me the sorry state that some individuals would go to sea in. vessels that were overloaded with passengers, having to few PFD's and mixing alcohol into the mix. Boaters in the United States can go to sea in total faith that the men and women of the USCG are always ready at a seconds notice to put to sea to save their lives.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

1 Apr 1967 CG, after 177 years in Treasury Department, transferred to newly formed DOT.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

10 Aug 1971 Federal Boat Safety Act signed. CG given wider authority over recreational boating in U.S.

[Carry_Okie]

See #27.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"What about those container ships?"

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"See #27"

I did, that's why I posted the history, with the link.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"Boaters in the United States can go to sea in total faith that the men and women of the USCG are always ready at a seconds notice to put to sea to save their lives."

This I have observed 1st hand.
Thank You for your service to our country.

[Semper911]

You are clearly a little young yet...

Oh how I wish.

...and definitely short on your knowledge of history

mmm. My bachelor's degree is in History, but few are as wise as you.

The only reason there aren't private towing and rescue companies at sea...

There are, and they are useless and undependable.

I revise my previous statement: Should your boat go down, I will call you a private tow boat. I might even give him the coordinates. Expect him to respond within 24 hours, but only after your Visa card has been verified. (Unless he runs out of fuel in 8 foot seas, like the one I once towed in.)

The container ships? There must be something in the Constitution that can help us out here, don't you think?

[Mr Fowl]

"All vessels within 500 yards of any large U.S. naval vessel (greater than 100 feet) must operate at the minimum speed necessary to maintain a safe course and proceed as directed by the Navy or Coast Guard patrol enforcing the zone."

[Carry_Okie]

Uncle Bill, would you please provide the Tonk and Mr. Semper your set of container ship links?

[Snow Bunny]

Thank you my dear brother Tonkin!!!!!

And thank you Semper911 !!!!

Delta if you are aroung tonight you might like to see our friend Tonkin's thread.

God less our wonderful Coast Guard and the Coast Guard Aux.

[Carry_Okie]

You are clearly a little young yet...

Oh how I wish.

I was being charitable. If it isn't inexperience, it's ignorance.

...and definitely short on your knowledge of history

mmm. My bachelor's degree is in History, but few are as wise as you.

There's a cure for that.

The only reason there aren't private towing and rescue companies at sea...

There are, and they are useless and undependable.

Red Stack? LOL, they're they guys you call when you can't handle it! Oh, but they're for big ships. I see. You can't see your invisible hand. And why can't they move down-market? You don't charge what the service is worth so they don't go there. Meanwhile you tell us that you don't have the manpower to inspect those containerships. Why not?

I revise my previous statement: Should your boat go down, I will call you a private tow boat. I might even give him the coordinates. Expect him to respond within 24 hours, but only after your Visa card has been verified. (Unless he runs out of fuel in 8 foot seas, like the one I once towed in.)

Nothing like tax money to make you feel superior. So when no self-respecting company competes with a tax funded competitor you think you're somehow superior. You just don't want honest competition.

You are now showing your true colors. A government agent that thinks it's just fine to write, enforce, and adjudicate laws by simply calling them rules, an agent with no accountability for delivering an effective product. That's why less than so few incoming containers are inspected. Any one of them could easily contain a nuclear weapon. The Chinese have missile designs to fit. So what does government do? Defend the nation as a whole? No. It defends government ships.

The container ships? There must be something in the Constitution that can help us out here, don't you think?

Yeah, it's called "regulate the militia," "letters of maruqe and reprisal," and "no standing armies," all having something to do with "provide for the common defense." Remember them history major?

[Semper911]

Good night, sir. Best of luck selling your book.

[hedgetrimmer]

Coastie BUMP.

Our auxillary feeds the Monterey station dinner on the 14th and 30th of every month to help them stretch their paychecks because their station is so small they don't do dinners for the coasties who live on base.

June 30 we're going to throw a tri-tip barbeque. They are worth it!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"Meanwhile you tell us that you don't have the manpower to inspect those containerships. Why not?"

I guess you missed the part about the TOTAL Coast Guard regular roster is only 35,000.
Over 96,000 miles of coastline and waterways to protect with 35,000 regular Coast Guard.
Now factor in 48 on, 48 off shifts, plus leave time etc.
That's less than 1/2 of registered FReepers.
Now the question is why it's only 35,000 and who set that limit.

BTW For the record the 35,000 Coast Guard Auxiliary members do not cost taxpayers anything.
We receive no pay and buy our own uniforms.
Only Auxiliary expense paif back is for fuel cost while on an official Coast Guard Auxiliary patrol.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"no accountability for delivering an effective product"

The people whose lives have been saved by the Coast Guard would not agree with this statement.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"You don't charge what the service is worth"

Since when does the military charge citizens for it's services?
The United States Coast Guard is a military, multimission, maritime service within the Department of Transportation and one of the nation's five armed services. Its core roles are to protect the public, the environment, and U.S. economic and security interests in any maritime region in which those interests may be at risk, including international waters and America's coasts, ports, and inland waterways.