Wounded Soldier With Wired Jaw Prevented From Boarding Plane With Wire Clippers

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[gunshy]

And your point is?

[gunshy]

Do you really feel more secure now when you fly?

[HiTech RedNeck]

All liquid in does not mean all liquid out in case of emesis. Enzymes in the stomach coagulate some liquids such as milk (just like making cheese).

[Quila]

This is what happens when we can't profile. Therefore, we can't use common sense but apply an overly broad brush to everyone.

Good point. This is exactly what I usually see when a school applies a zero-tolerance policy for drugs or weapons. Removing common sense from the process never works.

[Quila]

Hey! That's profiling, you can't do that!! :)

[philman_36]

Airport spokesman Mike McCarron said a flight attendant or pilot would have held Miller's clippers if they had known their importance — if, for instance, he had presented a doctor's note.

A doctor's note!

So long America I loved you.
Notes required now for your native sons.
Welcome to the new modern day Amerika.
It's gone now before you even knew what it was.

[riley1992]

With his jaws wired shut the possibility of asphyxiating on his own vomit is a danger large enough to warrant having to carry wire cutters.

[OldSmaj]

The main reason I feel this way is that I can't figure out why Lt. Miller needed the wire cutters to begin with.

Regurgitation of stomach contents prompts the mouth to open widely, allowing the contents, whether liquid or "chunky" to flow unimpeded from the throat and mouth.

The act of opening the mouth also prompts the closure of the airway, therefore lessening the chance of aspiration of the regurgitated liquid or "chunks".

Not a fool proof method, but workable, if one is able to spontaneously open one's mouth while regurgitating.

Being restricted in opening one's mouth can prompt a "panic" gasp, which will cause the aspiration of whatever is in the mouth, leading to asphixiation, and if one survives the asphixiation, to a respiratory complication and even pneumonia.

So therefore, one can now understand the need for the wire cutters.

One can also see the need to prepare for the complications presented by carrying such implements upon an aircraft, particularly during these times of hysterical, uh, er, heightened security measures.

[marajade]

By Federalizing airport security he has guaranteed that it will be more costly and less efficient, just as everything that the Federal Government is involved in.

Is that right? Does that include the NSA, the FBI, and the CIA too?

[strela]

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

[monday]

"Is that right? Does that include the NSA, the FBI, and the CIA too?"

I am afraid so. It is not their fault, it is simply the nature of gov't bureaucracies. When there is no punishment for poor job performance like there is in the private sector, there is no incentive to opperate efficiently.

Observe the difference in job security between gov't employment and corporate employment. It is almost unheard of for gov't employees to be fired for incompetence, while it happens routinely in the private sector.

[Fzob]

the federal agency that oversees airport security, is still working out the kinks in policy.

I expect we'll be hearing this excuse for what.... twenty or thirty years.

[marajade]

Honey it would be wild total anarchy in the US without their success...

[marajade]

Observe the difference in job security between gov't employment and corporate employment.

Really? And what was the point of going from private to gov't for airport screeners? Because the private contractor they procured didn't follow through with background checks... I don't think the gov't will fail to follow through... I had to undergo a background check, including fingerprints, just to pay bills with the state of az.

[bluefish]

Very nice. This one goes in my "file" of responses for idiots who can't reason. Sometimes, a good point can only be understood by dopes with the use of creative, illustrative examples like this. The next guy who whines about profiling gets your little quiz. My biggest fear is, the idiot I am trying to educate will actually fail it.

[NittanyLion]

Bush COULDN'T veto this bill because if he had, there would have been NO BILL, which in turn would have held back security. (And I suspect you know that.)

Yes, of course. Only federal screeners can perform their job properly. A surprising assertion, given the fact that the government can't even find enough qualified people (even at their standards) for the job. I would remind you that boxcutters were allowed on aircraft as of 9/11 - this was not a failing of airport security folks.

[thrcanbonly1]

Is that right? Does that include the NSA, the FBI, and the CIA too?

Of course. They have been doing a bang up job so far.

[screed]

Don't let her get away with equating the airport screeners with the CIA and FBI. Talk about comparing apples and oranges. This is more like comparing apples and Buicks. There are a number of lame-brained government agencies you could compare them to to refute your point, but that would be an equally unfair comparison.

Notice the airline official where he first tries to dodge the bullet by saying the pilot or flight crew could have helped if only ........

Then the next paragraph where he points at the government screeners in an effort to absolve himself of all responsibility for the idiocy.

Hard to blame him. Cause here's the real shame. AA is STILL on the hotseat for this, even though they'be been torn out of the process and notice who was NEVER taken to task on the issue: The GOVERNMENT.

Accountability is the issue here. And guess what, there won't be ANY. Guaranteed.

[Politicalmom]

Please spell out the "added security". It is an added headache for all the mothers with tiny children and little old ladies(and men) in support hose, while the terrorists walk right by. After all, being "insensitive" is worse that allowing a terrorist on a plane.

[marajade]

Who was comparing the FBI and CIA with airport screeners? I certainly wasn't. How about addressing my issue though that the private contractor who was supposed to do background checks wasn't?