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Fla. can't find 1,000 kids in state custody
CNN ^ | 06.04.02 | CNN

Posted on 06/04/2002 10:02:42 AM PDT by callisto

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Florida's child welfare agency said Monday it was unable to account for about 1,000 children in its system, including about 400 believed to have run away and more than 100 others missing because a non-custodial parent or relative took them.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fldfc; lostchildren
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You just can't get much more incompetent than this agency it appears.
1 posted on 06/04/2002 10:02:42 AM PDT by callisto
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To: stevemitch
The agency made the announcement after caseworkers tried to visit all 46,403 children under the agency's jurisdiction last month.

Gov. Jeb Bush ordered the agency to see all the children after the department in April revealed that 5-year-old Rilya Wilson had not been accounted for in 15 months.

Looks like Jeb is behind this and not some leftist scheme. Actually I applaude Jeb for coming forward when the vast majority of politicians in elected office run for the tall grass.

3 posted on 06/04/2002 10:14:07 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: callisto
Okay, 400 are runaways whom you can help only so much. Another 100 have been snatched by a parent are most likely not in danger. What about the remaining 500?

And if this is happening in Florida, who is to say that it isn't happening in other states?

4 posted on 06/04/2002 10:16:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: summer, Floriduh Voter, JulieRNR21
This hit-piece was on the front page of the Sarasota Herald-Tribune (remember, kids, that's "SHT" for short), our wholly-owned subsiderary of the NY Times. Interestingly, though, it's not to be found anywhere on their website edition. Maybe the webmaster is a friend of ours. Hey, I can wish, can't I?

And of course, Tom "Lyin'" Lyons was in there today as well, with this screed, "If governor's right on education spending, then voters must be wrong".

All the usual suspects…


5 posted on 06/04/2002 10:16:49 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: callisto
School's out and they're at my house. Please come and get 'em. I can't keep enough snacks and soft drinks on hand and the bathroom's a mess.
6 posted on 06/04/2002 10:17:27 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: TADSLOS
well, i heard the figure of kids lost in the system thanks to jeb bush is 12 million. (sarcasm)
7 posted on 06/04/2002 10:18:56 AM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: callisto
I'll bet they all voted for Gore though.
8 posted on 06/04/2002 10:19:38 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: callisto
Just wait until the next national election, I bet they'll show up, probably in Palm Beach.
10 posted on 06/04/2002 10:21:16 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: Blood of Tyrants
DCF changed their name from HRS as a PR move long before Jeb Bush became governor. They've had a terrible reputation for many, many years and they're not going to be fixed overnight. The problems run way too deep.
11 posted on 06/04/2002 10:21:51 AM PDT by callisto
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To: Blood of Tyrants, callisto
Okay, 400 are runaways whom you can help only so much. Another 100 have been snatched by a parent are most likely not in danger. What about the remaining 500?

This is not the complete story posted on the CNN website.

In a conference call with reporters, Pintacuda said 972 children were unaccounted for. He said:
401 were classified as runaways.
135 were listed as absconded (taken by a non-custodial parent or relative).
421 were listed as "out of state" (reported to be in placements out of state but caseworkers in those states did not visit them).
10 were missing because the family had moved or was on vacation.
Caseworkers could not visit four other children because of court orders preventing them from doing so.

12 posted on 06/04/2002 10:22:51 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: callisto
This is Arafatian Orwelism of irresponsibility.

"You just hope and pray that nothing happens, and you do your darnedest to find them,"

Please, stop this "I am sinless CPS" crap and curl up and die. Parents are not sinless but certainly not as sinful as CPS.

13 posted on 06/04/2002 10:23:41 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: TADSLOS
LOL! They're at mine too.
14 posted on 06/04/2002 10:24:00 AM PDT by callisto
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To: callisto
You just can't get much more incompetent than this agency it appears.

They must've used the INS as their role model. NO ONE beats the INS when it comes to losing people.

Tuor

15 posted on 06/04/2002 10:24:24 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: callisto
Gee, government is as accountable for children as it is taxpayer money.

Anyone surprised?
16 posted on 06/04/2002 10:24:46 AM PDT by xrp
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To: stevemitch
see post #11. This really has gone on since well before the 1990s. Looks like it's time to look through archives of FL papers.
17 posted on 06/04/2002 10:25:47 AM PDT by callisto
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To: NautiNurse
My apologies if I inadvertently lost part of the text. I copied from the source code. Here's the rest:
In addition, the report's numbers of missing children differ from what the Department of Law Enforcement said the agency had given them. The law enforcement agency said the DCF had reported 155 missing to them through May.

In a conference call with reporters, Pintacuda said 972 children were unaccounted for. He said:

401 were classified as runaways.

135 were listed as absconded (taken by a non-custodial parent or relative).

421 were listed as "out of state" (reported to be in placements out of state but caseworkers in those states did not visit them).

10 were missing because the family had moved or was on vacation.

Caseworkers could not visit four other children because of court orders preventing them from doing so.

Pintacuda said the agency hopes to interview 265 more children by the end of the week, saying caseworkers ran out of time to interview them last month.

Asked if the agency definitely knows where those children are, Pintacuda said, "Until you see them, we don' know, but we think we know where they are.

Pintacuda defended the agency's work, saying the goal to interview all the children in one month was extremely ambitious.

He said "no state in this country" interviewed as many children as the caseworkers in Florida did last month. He said the number of runaways was not unusual, because "kids come and they go."

Pintacuda said the agency had interviewed about 98 percent of the children -- while state and federal law requires 90 percent.

"I don't know if we'll ever see 100 percent," he said. "Our people did a heck of a job."

But when a reporter said the agency still fell short of the governor's order, Pintacuda responded, "You're right."

The governor's office had no immediate comment on the report


18 posted on 06/04/2002 10:30:10 AM PDT by callisto
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To: callisto
I wonder how similar agencies in other states would stand under the same scrutiny? For instance-- New York? California? Texas? There are lots of children out there.
19 posted on 06/04/2002 10:32:50 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: callisto
You just can't get much more incompetent than this agency it appears.

The FBI would resemble that remark.

Government knows best.

---max

20 posted on 06/04/2002 10:37:17 AM PDT by max61
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