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India Plans War Within Two Weeks
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-6-2002 | Rahul Bedi

Posted on 06/05/2002 4:52:04 PM PDT by blam

India plans war within two weeks

By Rahul Bedi in New Delhi
(Filed: 06/06/2002)

India's military is seeking final authorisation to invade the Pakistani side of divided Kashmir in the middle of this month to destroy the camps of Islamic militants.

The planned campaign would be similar to the American attack in Afghanistan, in which air strikes would be followed by ground assaults by special forces transported by helicopter, military sources said yesterday.

Smart bombs and other advanced ordnance are reported to have been loaded on to French-made Mirage 2000H and Russian-built MiG-27 aircraft at bases in northern and western India.

As Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, strengthened his warning to Britons to leave the region, military planners in Delhi expressed confidence that a war would not boil over into a nuclear exchange.

A senior Indian official accused Britain, America and other western countries of "adding their weight to Pakistan's nuclear blackmail" by telling their citizens to leave.

"This is jumping the gun," he said. "Our intention is not to have an all-out war. It would be a limited action."

Most senior Indian officers expect that the conflict would last about a week before pressure from America and other powers forced a ceasefire.

One officer said he believed there was only the "slimmest chance" of nuclear weapons being used. "We will call Pakistan's nuclear bluff," he said. It [the nuclear factor] cannot deter us any more."

The Indians want to move before the arrival of heavy monsoon rains at the beginning of July make military operations impossible.

The tension was underlined by the Foreign Office's second warning to Britons to leave the region.

Last week Mr Straw said they should "consider" leaving. Yesterday he said they "should" do so amid evidence that the first advice had been widely ignored. Officials say there are some 20,000 Britons in India, but unofficial estimates are much higher.

As America issued equally robust advice to its 60,000 citizens, a senior Indian planning officer said that Washington and London knew that action was imminent.

"The US-led move out of Delhi indicates that Washington has been informed of India's intentions of hitting Pakistan and is taking them seriously," he said.

Japan's foreign minister, Yoriko Kawaguchi, cancelled a trip to the region hours after speaking to Mr Straw. Tokyo refused to give a reason, saying only that "there were various considerations".

India's plan of attack is to seize and hold tracts of Pakistani Kashmir, providing the government with a much-needed military triumph and the military with improved defensive positions against Islamic militants.

Officers indicated that the air force was poised to execute a strategy developed over several years to strike at 50 to 75 militant bases and a handful of other targets in Kashmir.

The Indians would then send troops across the high mountain passes in helicopters. Planners expect major casualties as the helicopters cross four lines of Pakistani air defences equipped with advanced radar.

Targets will include a bridge across the Karakoram highway connecting China to the region and at least three others linking Pakistani Kashmir to the rest of the country.

Their destruction would prevent China from replenishing its ally Pakistan's weaponry. It would also cut off supply routes from Pakistan to front-line units.

India's broad strategy is to execute air strikes that will induce Pakistan into extending the conflict by opening a wider front.

President Bush telephoned both leaders to urge calm and the crisis dominated talks in London between Tony Blair and Donald Rumsfeld, the American defence secretary, who is on his way to India and Pakistan.

The two countries have massed more than a million men on their border since the crisis began with an attack by militants on the Indian parliament in December.

Relations worsened after another attack last month in which 22 wives and children of Indian army personnel were killed. In the latest diplomatic rebuff, Pakistan rejected an Indian offer to establish a joint border monitoring force to help halt incursions by Islamic militants into Indian-controlled Kashmir.

India's military believes that it now has political backing for war. An officer said the beleaguered ruling coalition was "fully aware" that backing down at this juncture would mean political suicide.

The Indian armed forces have been losing men for 13 years in fighting in Kashmir. By attacking soon, an officer said, they planned to set back Pakistan's military capability by at least 30 years, pushing it into the military "dark ages". India has assured Washington that its forces would give the American bases at Jacobabad, Pasni and Dalbandin close to the Afghan border a wide berth.

An army officer said: "Casualties in men and machines in such an operation will be high and the military has firmly told the politicians to prepare the nation for losses and delayed results, as fighting will be fierce."

Pakistan has concentrated the majority of its forces in Kashmir and would unleash its Scud-like Chinese M 9 and M 11 ballistic missiles.


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1 posted on 06/05/2002 4:52:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: swarthyguy
ping!
2 posted on 06/05/2002 4:54:28 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
"...India's military is seeking final authorisation to invade the Pakistani side of divided Kashmir in the middle of this month to destroy the camps of Islamic militants..."


Who are they asking?
3 posted on 06/05/2002 4:55:22 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: blam
... The planned campaign would be similar to the American attack in Afghanistan ...
Oh, right, because India has the equipment, tactical doctrine, and organizational flexibility to prosecute just such a war. The whole world does, actually. Why don't they always fight like we fight?
4 posted on 06/05/2002 5:07:42 PM PDT by Asclepius
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To: Black Agnes
Officers indicated that the air force was poised to execute a strategy developed over several years to strike at 50 to 75 militant bases and a handful of other targets in Kashmir.

And long gone

5 posted on 06/05/2002 5:07:47 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: blam
One more terrorist attack and India will attack. Musharraf is up Crap Crick in Imsoscrewed Valley. I wonder what he is going to do. I'll probably need sunglasses just watching the conflict on TV for pete's sake.

"Our intention is not to have an all-out war. It would be a limited action."

I hope that is not the equivalent to my friend saying, "Here, hold my beer a second...watch this..."

6 posted on 06/05/2002 5:21:34 PM PDT by rudypoot
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To: blam
bttt
7 posted on 06/05/2002 5:22:22 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Black Agnes;blam
FReeper analysis of a campaign. Section 9's take
8 posted on 06/05/2002 5:23:28 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: blam
"India's broad strategy is to execute air strikes that will induce Pakistan into extending the conflict by opening a wider front."

Hmmm, not a recipe for a quick or definite resolution imo. Sounds like some type of WWI strategy.

9 posted on 06/05/2002 5:25:28 PM PDT by Justa
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To: vannrox
The civilian authority, I believe.
10 posted on 06/05/2002 5:31:26 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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To: swarthyguy;section9
"FReeper analysis of a campaign. Section 9's take "

Good link and analysis, thanks.

11 posted on 06/05/2002 5:35:28 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"The Indians would then send troops across the high mountain passes in helicopters. Planners expect major casualties as the helicopters cross four lines of Pakistani air defences equipped with advanced radar."

If they try something that boneheaded, they will get slaughtered...

12 posted on 06/05/2002 5:36:33 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: blam
We will call Pakistan's nuclear bluff," he said. It [the nuclear factor] cannot deter us any more."

Assuming, ASS-U-M-ing it is a bluff...

13 posted on 06/05/2002 5:39:23 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
*sigh* ASS-U-Ming should be ASH-U-Ming. As in when you assume you could make an ASH out of U and ME...
14 posted on 06/05/2002 5:41:54 PM PDT by null and void
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To: spokeshave

I thought I'd repost my thoughts on what India might be doing if war breaks out. I put this up about a week and a half ago. This Daily Telegraph piece appears to be in line with my thinking, only I didn't anticipate an airmobile assualt on the Karakorum Pass.

Sounds like a good idea. I simply think that this is being leaked by the Indians to encourage the Pakistani General Staff to believe that the Indian assualt will be a "hey diddle diddle, straight up the middle" assault. As you can see below, I believe the Indians have different plans.

All ya gotta do is look at the map....

Be Seeing You,

Chris

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Well, I know it sounds like things might be calming down over there, but don't get your hopes up too high. Remember that although the New York "operation" didn't lead to an uprising among the Islamic umma, the Bin Ladenists still have some tricks up thier sleeve. The Kashmir is their hole card.

You'll recall that several months back there was a vicious attack on the Indian Parliament House. That attack had all the trademarks of Al Qaeda. Recently, "Kashmiri Militants" raided an Indian military outpost and killed 31 soldiers and family members. This smells of Al Qaeda, and I think that the Jihadi are going to do what they can to stoke tensions in the area and provoke India into war for the following reasons:

1. The millenialists who run Al Qaeda want to bring down Musharraf.
2. They want a Pakistani warhead or two. Might come in handy later.

Now then, suppose there is a war. Suppose the AQ is able to pull this off. Well, the Indians would know that AQ is part of the problem, and they would also want to deal with the Kashmiri seperatists. In the following paragraphs, I'll try to give you all my take on how the war would go, given the balance of forces and the following political and military assumptions.

The political assumptions behind an Indian offensive are:

1. Pakistan is isolated politically because Indian diplomacy has successfully painted the Kashmiri/AQ axis as "terrorist", thus making American efforts to be "evenhanded" difficult.
2. The Great Powers (U.S., Russia, China, France, the UK, the Continent, and Japan) remain neutral.
3. The Arab League remains neutral.

The military assumptions behind the invasion are as follows:

1. Despite the present sabre-rattling, nuclear weapons will not be used, simply because Indian aims will be limited, the Pakistanis know they will be limited, and American pressure on both powers will be enormous.
2. India will blockade the port of Karachi, in case political assumption "3" above is in error.
3. India will have air supremacy after five days of fierce Pakistani resistance. There will be no American spare parts for the F-16's.

Let's take a look at a U.N. map of Jammu and Kashmir....

On the eastern side of the "Line of Control" are between 400,000 and 700,000 Indian Army troops. West of the LOC are between 75,000 and 300,000 Pakistani Army troops.

Notice the salient jutting out of Indian Kashmir towards the Indus River. There's a road network that runs out of the provincial capitol of Srinagar. Indian leg, panzergrenadier, and panzer formations will assemble, in all probability, just south of Srinigar in the Vale of Kashmir area, shielded by the Pir Panjai Range to the West. To the northeast of Srinigar, another Indian Army group will assemble along the LOC, probably in three or four infantry corps (addendum, 6/5/02): perhaps five or six corps, depending on how the Indians define a "corps"), along a jump off line running from Srinigar in the South to the Saltoro Range in the North.

The model for the Indian attack will be the German Sichelschnitt operation of May, 1940. Sometime before D-Day, Indian Special forces will attack nuclear installations and other important outposts, such as C3I assets. At H-hour itself, a tremendous artillery barrage will signal the advance of "Army Group North" along the Eastern Indus and Shyok rivers, with the tactical objective being Skardu. It is assumed that fierce Pakistani resistance will increase as the Indian Army advances along these river valleys.

Meanwhile, back at the assembly area, the commander of "Army Group South" will probably wait as long as 24, perhaps even 48 hours in the hopes that the Pakistani Army will be suckered into a big fight in the northeast (along with as many militants and Al Qaeda that the ISI and the Jihadists can muster). Then the Indian Air Force, which had been covering the northern advance, will swing south and start deep strike raids all over Pakistan. They will studiously ignore the rather quiet area opposite the salient west of Sopur.

Once Indian air superiority has been achieved, the trap will be sprung. Indian leg infantry and mech infantry will advance due north out of the assembly area accross the bridges at Sopur and Baramula. They will advance towards the Pakistani town of Kel and the hill country due west of the town. It will be important for any of you watching this war, should it occur, to notice the presence of any bridgeing equipment and combat engineer units in the van of the Indian advance. Their first job will be to establish at least two, preferably three, pontoon bridges over the Jheam river. The Indians, I'm convinced, are going to try to duplicate von Rundstedt's feat of 1940 by cutting the Pakstani Army in Kashmir off from the rest of the country; that's where positioning and logistics will come in, and the Indian General Staff is mindful of this, I am sure.

Once over the Jheam, the mech infantry and panzer troops will move on towards the Indus River. The first phase of the operation should be completed in 48 hours. The most critical phase will occur as the Pakistani Staff realizes that the battle in the south is not an Indian probe but is the schwerpunkt of the whole offensive. For the time being Musharraf will convince his staff that the day can be salvaged and he will begin to assemble Pakistani units from the rest of the country into an assembly area north and west of Islamabad for a counteroffensive.

I'm betting that the Indians have already gamed this out. Here's what they'll do. Go back to the map. Indian leg infantry and mech troops will advance ahead of the Panzers towards the Indus river, with the strategic objective being the highway running along the Indus and the mountain pass at Babusar. They have to sieze that pass and capture the town of Chilas. Many of the Indian armored units will pivot and face southwest to beat back an expected Pakistani counteroffensive (which will be led by armor- the army in the northeast is probably made up of leg infantry, mountain troops, and artillery rigiments.). Indian armor will line up from the schwerpunkt at Kel all the way up to the Babusar pass.

Once again, the combat engineers and logistics units will throw bridges over a river, only this time it will be the Indus. That being done, the full scope of the Indian plan will become clear to Pakistan: Indian troops intend to cut off Jammu and Kashmir from Pakistan altogether by siezing the mountain passes in the northwest on the border of Pakistan proper. If they can apply enough pressure up here, they could get to the passes with mountain troops before the Pakistanis can reinforce these "rear area" garrisons. Meanwhile, Indian mechanized infantry, with a few panzer companies for heavy gunfights, will advance due north up the Indus highway towards Baltit. It is hoped that this move will seal the fate of the northern Pakistani Army, still engaged with (and pinned down by) Indian Army Group North. The Pakistani Army in the north will thus be in a kessel, and, depending on how much pressure the Indians can put on them, suddenly out of a line of supply.

It's about this time, when it's almost too late, that the Pakistani Army will begin an uncoordinated armored offensive on an axis running from the area between Islamabad and the Tarbela Resevoir to the bridgehead at Kel. They will try to duplicate what the Germans attepted to do at Mortain, cut off the neck of the advancing enemy army. However, Indian artillery and panzer troops will hold defensive positions and, in combination with the Indian Air Force, conduct a static defense of the Indian left flank. They will succeed, but by the time the Pakistani counteroffensive gets under way, the war will be all but over.

Militarily, it will be game, set, match.

The Indians assume that the Great Powers would be able to convince Pakistan of limited Indian aims (we kill the Jihadists, then we withdraw to the LOC, and we hope you have learned your lesson) and will apply unbelievable pressure against Pakistani first use. The Chinese will be ruthlessly abrupt with Pakistan, promising (in exchange for Pakistani concessions) Chinese help at the Peace Conference. The wild card here is Pakistani nuclear weapons release protocol. If some hothead missile regiment commander can initiate a strike, then just light a match and burn up the whole gameboard, so to speak, 'cause some no-account bird colonel is going to send India and Pakistan straight to hell. Again, a big "if". From a strictly military point of view, as long as the Indians don't get bottled up in mountain battles and bypass obstructions while sticking to the river valleys, I don't see how they can lose this thing.

My two cents, for what it's worth, as another Islamic Army gets outwitted. The good thing for the Pakistanis is that they're Punjabis, not Arabs, so they have a lot of fight in them. They won't fold up like a cheap card table, but they will be put to bed.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

15 posted on 06/05/2002 5:42:52 PM PDT by section9
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To: section9
INDIA NEWS WIRES HERE
16 posted on 06/05/2002 5:45:49 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: blam
The Indians would then send troops across the high mountain passes in helicopters. Planners expect major casualties as the helicopters cross four lines of Pakistani air defences equipped with advanced radar.

You would have to be pretty darn stupid to send helicopters full of men into air defences like that without first taking the radar stations out. This doesn't sound right to me.

17 posted on 06/05/2002 5:59:02 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: rudypoot
I'll probably need sunglasses just watching the conflict on TV for pete's sake.

We better get Geraldo on a plane to Kashmir right away!

18 posted on 06/05/2002 6:04:57 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty
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To: The Sons of Liberty
One word of advice: when watching this war, it might help to put on sunblock first.

Oh yeah, break out the Ray Bans.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

19 posted on 06/05/2002 6:08:45 PM PDT by section9
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To: section9
If some hothead missile regiment commander can initiate a strike, then just light a match and burn up the whole gameboard, so to speak, 'cause some no-account bird colonel is going to send India and Pakistan straight to hell.

I tell you what, if some SOB jihadist, "true believer" has his finger on the nuclear trigger over there it will turn into an atomic war, you can count on that.

20 posted on 06/05/2002 6:12:44 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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