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Stock trader targeted in Sept. 11 probe agrees to return to New York
bostonherald.com ^ | Wednesday, June 5, 2002 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/06/2002 2:29:38 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate

Stock trader targeted in Sept. 11 probe agrees to return to New York

Associated Press
Wednesday, June 5, 2002

SAN DIEGO - An Egyptian-born financial analyst who prosecutors said may have had prior knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks agreed Tuesday to be returned to New York to face charges of using confidential FBI information to manipulate stock prices.

Amr I. ``Tony'' Elgindy will remain held without bond in San Diego until he is moved. A spokesman for the U.S. marshal's office would not say exactly when he would be moved.

Elgindy, 34, of Encinitas, waived his right to fight extradition at a brief hearing Tuesday. His attorney, Jeanne Knight, did not return a message seeking comment.

In a telephone interview from jail, Elgindy told the Los Angeles Times that the terrorist allegations were raised because ``of my birthplace, my name, the color of my skin.'' He also said that all the material he used to focus on stocks was gathered through public sources.

Federal authorities arrested Elgindy last month on an indictment issued by a New York grand jury, charging him with insider trading, securities fraud, extortion and obstruction of justice.

He is accused of bribing an FBI agent to give him secrets from federal criminal databases and then using the information to make money in the stock market. A current and a former FBI agent were among four others charged in the conspiracy.

At a May 24 detention hearing in San Diego, a federal prosecutor said Elgindy may have known about the Sept. 11 attacks and tried to profit from them.

Elgindy telephoned his broker on Sept. 10, asked him to liquidate his children's $300,000 trust account, Assistant U.S. Attorney Ken Breen said. The defendant also made a comment that the Dow Jones industrial average, then trading at about 9,600, would drop to 3,000, Breen said.

``Perhaps Mr. Elgindy had pre-knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks,'' he said. ``Instead of trying to report it, he tried to profit from it.''

Breen said that Elgindy had $2 million invested in positions that would have benefited from a market collapse.

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1 posted on 06/06/2002 2:29:39 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: It'salmosttolate
If he's guilty, I only regret that we don't allow for public stonings. It's the perfect punishment (and a great deterrent, too).
2 posted on 06/06/2002 2:46:28 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: rdavis 84;fred mertz
ping
3 posted on 06/06/2002 3:02:34 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: It'salmosttolate
He is accused of bribing an FBI agent to give him secrets from federal criminal databases and then using the information to make money in the stock market. A current and a former FBI agent were among four others charged in the conspiracy.

!!!

4 posted on 06/06/2002 3:06:09 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
He was bribing 2 FBI agents-They spin this into a possible 9-11 link and downplay the FBI agent's involvement.
5 posted on 06/06/2002 3:13:48 PM PDT by miamimark
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To: It'salmosttolate
He gets data from a criminal data base from crooked FBI agents AND he may have had prior knowledge of 9/11? Man, I hope there is no connection there! Yikes.
6 posted on 06/06/2002 4:06:13 PM PDT by JBBooks
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To: JBBooks
The 9-11 allegations are total bullsh*t. This guy calls numerous brokers every day, he is a professional trader and a well known short seller. The prosecutors are grandstanding with this one.
7 posted on 06/06/2002 5:07:24 PM PDT by There's millions of'em
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To: There's millions of'em
He liquidated his accounts on sept.10 and you don't see a connection. He states the dow will go down to 3000 and you don't see a connection. No short professional trader I know would do anything so drastic. They would always hedge. No, this guy is bad and we all know it.
8 posted on 06/06/2002 5:37:51 PM PDT by DWC
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To: DWC
You are misinformed.

He spoke to his broker AFTER the market closed on 9/10 regarding their planned meeting on 9/11. The sales in the accounts (custodian accounts for his kids) took place about 9/18. Do the facts make any difference to your opinion?

9 posted on 06/06/2002 6:06:59 PM PDT by There's millions of'em
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10 posted on 06/06/2002 6:07:30 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: DWC

I know the man and I know pro Shorts ... they were saying the market would go down because the tech bubble burst ... THEY HAD NO PRIOR 9/11 KNOWLEDGE. This is just a way to stir up trouble and put pressure on him to "cooperate with authorities". He was a short who used the FACTS about con artists to go after scam companies and short their stocks. I am shocked he used FBI information, but let a court decide, he's not convicted yet.

... HE IS INNOCENT OF THIS 9/11 SLANDER, FOR SURE!


11 posted on 06/06/2002 9:00:53 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: DWC
I have a friend who's been calling for 900 on Nazdaq and some perma-bears see 4500 dow. They wont be right, but ...
12 posted on 06/06/2002 9:01:52 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: WOSG; rdavis84; nopardons; thinden; aristeides; Donald Stone; RummyChick
WOSG, how well do you know this man?
13 posted on 06/06/2002 9:45:22 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: There's millions of'em
WSJ article said he sold 9/10.

Where do your facts concerning a sale date of 9/18 come from?

14 posted on 06/06/2002 10:35:00 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Fred Mertz
I have been shorting stocks for over 3 years now and have followed his website and SI message board. He's had a lot of good ideas and is mainly a scambuster. That means he has been doing the work of angels, stop "pump-and-dump" scams from playing out and lining pockets of boiler room operators. There's been a ton of them since 1998 or so.

Here's his SI message board:

http://www.Siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/subject.gsp?subjectid=23993

I am not saying I can vouch for him personally, but a wild allegation like 9/11 link is absurd. He's a stock trader not a terrorist, for crying out loud.

. Anybody following the market early September could see a falloff *without* 9/11 attack - that just hastened it - the market was set to have a serious fall all through the summer. Had it taken natural course, would have fallen right through october, instead of falling sharply then rebounding.

BTW, WE ARE NEAR CYCLE LOW HERE IN DOW AND NAZ. More selloff may be coming, but then it will be another buying oppty like last September. I've been buying low PE beaten down stocks, like in energy, and WCOM as well. stay away from tech until intc hits $20.

15 posted on 06/06/2002 11:46:24 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
"WSJ article said he sold 9/10."

Wanna bet?

IF you are referring to the custodial or trust accounts that have received so much attention, THEN you are misinformed.

IF you are simply saying he sold "something", so what, millions of "stuff" was sold 9/10.

IF you can post here a link or verifiable quote that shows the WSJ states what you claim, then I will gladly post one of MANY sources to support my earlier statement.

16 posted on 06/07/2002 3:39:37 AM PDT by There's millions of'em
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To: There's millions of'em
Check again..one reported claim is that he called his broker sometime around Noon - 12:30 pm...market would still be open even if the broker he called was using pacific time.The broker couldn't liquidate for technical reasons to due with the account...and therefore the stocks weren't sold until after the market reopened.

He made a post after the attack claiming he was short 65 stocks and stood to make alot of money from the market falling. The post still exists.

17 posted on 06/07/2002 3:46:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: WOSG
Did you have a subscription to any of the sites that were associated with him?
18 posted on 06/07/2002 3:48:19 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: There's millions of'em
Shorts traders with inside information, from a government source, is hardly done by thousands everyday.
19 posted on 06/07/2002 3:50:00 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: WOSG
Is he innocent of the RICO charges?
20 posted on 06/07/2002 3:55:26 PM PDT by RummyChick
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