Posted on 06/15/2002 8:47:17 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
Israel Soon to be a 'Christian' Nation?
The Jewish majority in Israel faces a significant demographic threat.
Israel's Minister of the Interior Eli Yeshai said this week that at the current rates of growth, Jews will not be the majority population between the Jordan and the Mediterranean within eight years.
As it stands now, Yeshai noted, there are a growing number of IDF soldiers who refuse to take the oath of allegiance on the Tanakh (Jewish Bible), but rather insist on doing so on the New Testament. Yeshai calls for an "emergency public debate on the matter before it's too late."
In order to limit the number of non-Jews who take advantage of Israeli repatriation laws, Yeshai recommends that the Law of Return be changed.
Under the current law, individuals with one Jewish grandparent may obtain automatic citizenship - even though Judaism recognizes only the offspring of a Jewish mother or a halakhic [Jewish legal] convert as Jewish.
Housing Minister Natan Sharansky, however, says that now is not the time to discuss changing the Law of Return.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, Israel opened its doors to Russian Jews who sought to emigrate. Many did. Of these new immigrants to Israel, many were Christians who claimed a distant ancestor as being Jewish. Still others anxious to leave Russia falsely claimed they were Jewish.
You contend the information that explains Hosea is wrong. If you can say that with authority, then you must have a counter position to offer, or you are reacting from conditioning, unsure of just how you got your ideas, but positive they are correct, to the point where if another can't just see that they're correct, you just can't explain it.
That, my brother, is conditioning at work, and conditioning is rarely accurate, especially when it's religious or political conditioning, the two most used for social control.
Now, on to Hosea, shall we? Or at least provide some rational basis against the information in question. The two Biblical concepts of 1) God's covenant people will be numberless and 2) Israel and Judah as separate entities will be rejoined alone establishe prima facie evidence in its favor and puts the ball in your court.
You can't insist that there's no ball. What's that in you hands?
. . .the obvious context is that Israel brings for the Messiah which is made available to all the world . . .
You're going to have to rephrase and retransmit the above, hoss, I didn't scan it. The sentences nearby didn't seem to help, either.
Not all of the Northern Tribes live in one country either, but the country named 'the lands of the covenant' represents the gathering together of the House of Israel.
Q: Which country is Israel's companion?
1. Saudi Arabia
2. Frontierland
3. Oz
4. U.S.
One of the above, like Israel, was peculiarly formed by a gathering out of the nations. Two sticks, Ezekiel 37.
I didn't say that makes Hosea wrong. I said the statement that God told Abraham the same thing wasn't an answer to the question, how do you explain Hosea 1:10,11 if losttribes info is wrong? Would you care to take another run at it in light of that clarification?
Evidently they couldn't get along. I don't think they were evenly split. The house of Judah had Tribe Judah, maybe all of Tribe Benjamin and some parts of Tribe Levi. The House of Israel had the rest. I doubt any one individual was "the first Jew".
I'm not sure what is unclear about "the Messiah comes from Israel" ... seems pretty straightforward ... all nations are blessed from Israel ... (potentially)
Israel is not the small country in the Lands of Sands. Israel is the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel, of which Judah is but one tribe plus parts of others. The Messiah did come from Israel, that is to say, one tribe of Israel, Judah. Or maybe Benjamin or Levi, this is unclear, but the House of Judah, certainly.
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