Posted on 06/16/2002 5:32:24 AM PDT by magnum opus dejure
Well, it's been 4 years since I first found Free Republic. I have always felt like I belonged here and have really enjoyed the banter back and forth between us members. I am afraid all this is now over. I am really suprised and shocked at it's suddenness. Before I leave I want to thank a freeper from Michigan who sent me a DVD player last year to give to my kids for Christmas. You reaffirmed my faith in humanity.
I know this thread will be deleted before many people get to read it, but I just can't go without saying a final word. Every since 911 the 'vibe' here at FR has been decidedly hostile. I guess it was a matter of time before the newbie moderator got around to weeding me out for my sometimes unpopular views. So I join the ranks of A+Bert and so many others who gave FR a interesting flavor. I will miss coming here 20 times a day and keeping up on things. But without posting priviledges there is just no point. I must go find another conservative group to try to be a part of.
In the future, when a freeper who has been a loyal member since August 1998 crosses the line, how about a note instead of banning? Would that have been too much? I may have gotten out of line, how is beyond me, but if such a tresspass would have been pointed out I would gladly have refrained from doing so again. It is just not right to just ban an account with no explaination. Especially when the freeper has been here 4 years. I have no idea what I am going to do with my days now that I no longer have FR. Well, I guess I have said my part. It is a sad day when one has to leave family and friends. I feel like some of you were just that. But apparently I am no longer wanted around here. I bid my good day to you all and hope that karma pays it's respects to those who do injustice.
Why are you dumping on MAF? She's MUCH brighter than you.
I am trying to find the context now.
a.cricket
The legal premise of Habeas Corpus at least allows an American citizen to defend himself because a charge is defined and leveled against them. The present circumstances has Padilla confined, indefinitely, with no charge and chance to refute the claims the government has made. This is bad precedent, Jim. This allows President Hillary to do this to us.
The Friday Wall Street Journal made three recommendations that would be satisfactory. It would establish procedures that would protect our rights, while still allowing action against traitorous Americans when top secret considerations might prevent a standard civil criminal trial. I'll see if I can find the post.
I need to live in a country where if you are innocent, you can defend yourself against an untrue charge levied against you by the government.
BAD idea. I have friends that lurk here and don't post, but log in so they can see pings to them.
Yeah,Reagan really screwed-up there. Don't tell me,let me guess,ok? You "think" (ROFLMAO!) this is a GOOD thing,right?
Because under a Bush administration, the maggots are Padilla; but under a liberal Democrat administration, the 'maggots' become us.
But I DO support us while we are at war!
But why shouldn't we say we don't like what the administration is doing?
I thought it odd that the Homeland Security thing was ready so quick. I still do.
Yes.
Small claims division?
Why are you dumping on MAF? She's MUCH brighter than you.
781 posted on 6/16/02 8:30 PM Pacific by sneakypete
Respectfully, I think you have just been confused by his removal from civilian to military authority. Maybe you're thinking of the denial of h-b because he was moved and no longer in the venue it was filed earlier?
AFAIK his h-b from the military jail has not been ruled on.
I don't think anyone is "going to bat" for padilla as such.
The precedent is a little scary though.
Do you remember Oklahoma City? Everyone went bonkers after that..
They were blaming "the Right Wing" "Right Wing hate radio" and on and on with "Right Wing" this and "Right Wing" that.
I don't think it's taking up for the guy as much as people asking themselves if this could ever happen to them though they are innocent. It's probably merited in padillia's case, but the "probably" makes people wonder.
It makes me wonder..
I didn't. Short term memory problems?
They file the papers,they pay the money,and they become citizens without being deported and obtaining a visa to immigrate here. It amounts to the same thing. It is awarding criminal conduct and encouraging more of it.
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