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1 posted on 07/30/2002 9:13:49 PM PDT by Jason, from Columbus Ohio
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Clarify this for me ......

this 4473 thing is something that happens on the planet Earth as well as your sphere, or, is it simply a product of your own planet from a galaxy far, far away?

2 posted on 07/30/2002 9:19:41 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
4473?
4 posted on 07/30/2002 9:22:10 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Have you been doing the 420? I have no idea what you are talking about.
5 posted on 07/30/2002 9:22:16 PM PDT by seeker41
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Most here are pro-2nd amendment, but everybody does not know what the 4473 is.

Important Notice Regarding Changes to the Firearms TransactionRecord Part 1 - Over-the-Counter (Form 4473)

ATF F 4473 (5300.9) Part I - Page 1

Click on red text below to view more detailed information.

View: [Page 1] [Page 2] [Page 3] [Page 4]

Sample of ATF F 4473
Click here for details on section 9 Click here for details on section 10 Click here for details on section 11 Click here for details on section 12A Click here for details on section 12B Click here for details on section 12C Click here for details on section 12H Click here for details on section 12I Click here for details on section 12L Click here for details on section 13
6 posted on 07/30/2002 9:22:51 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
I'd have to say 508,307-A

Hope this helps.
8 posted on 07/30/2002 9:24:35 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Sounds like an infringement of the right to keep and bear arms.
9 posted on 07/30/2002 9:26:07 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Is doing the 4473 thing once in a while really a bad thing for you?

Not as bad as illegal gun transactions.

However, if you think "it would be near impossible to organize and digitize millions of these little forms into a national database" just remember that Hitler eliminated 7 million Jews not with supercomputers and databases but with SS agents and pencils and little notepads.

12 posted on 07/30/2002 9:43:37 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
25 or 624
13 posted on 07/30/2002 9:52:46 PM PDT by Drango
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio; Joe Brower; Shooter 2.5; Squantos; archy; Lazamataz; coloradan; ...
Ping for your thoughts on 4473s and "virtual registration".
15 posted on 07/30/2002 10:26:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Do a search. I believe it was last year that the ATF had to be taken to court in order to stop them from going into gun shops and scanning the forms into their laptops. A direct violation of the law.
26 posted on 07/31/2002 5:59:37 AM PDT by zx2dragon
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
I've bought, sold, and traded more guns with individuals than I can count. In fact out of all the guns I've ever owned only 2 were purchased from licensed dealers. I've never asked anyone to fill out this form and have never been asked to myself. I live in a rural area and most trades take place over CB or the local traders guides. A lot of times I don't even know the name of the person I sell or buy from. Most of the time I will agree on a price and meet the seller or buyer and an arraigned location. Nothing shady just the way business is done in the country.

29 posted on 07/31/2002 6:25:46 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Is doin' the 4473 really a bad thing?

If you don't mind the traffic. I usually do 337 to 40 and get off at exit 174.

36 posted on 07/31/2002 8:09:35 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Is doing the 4473 thing once in a while really a bad thing for you?

I suggest partying like its 1999.

38 posted on 07/31/2002 8:12:22 AM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
23 skidoo.

For those who suspect that scanning millions of such forms presents a technical challenge to the federal government, I have some bad news. It is neither difficult nor, I would be willing to bet, untried. What they do with this information is problematic, but the chances are high that it's out there. Data aren't always immortal, but it's the way to bet.

39 posted on 07/31/2002 8:49:14 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Sure, Big Brother puts you in a data base! Get real!
41 posted on 07/31/2002 9:40:45 AM PDT by matrix
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
I don't know about the 4473 but the 6583 scares the sh!t out of me......
43 posted on 07/31/2002 10:52:39 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Jason, from Columbus Ohio
Is doing the 4473 thing once in a while really a bad thing for you?

I've done it, now I regret it. It is a form of prior restraint,registration, guilty until proven innocent, Unconstitutional, unnecessary and just plain wrong.

Other than that I have no comment.

51 posted on 07/31/2002 6:55:37 PM PDT by Copernicus
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