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Brazilian Oil Workers Refuse to Replace Stiking Venezuelans
El Mercurio (Santiago) ^ | 04 January 2003 | EFE

Posted on 01/04/2003 6:43:17 AM PST by chilepepper

RÍO DE JANEIRO.- Los trabajadores petroleros brasileños rechazarán una posible invitación para sustituir a los venezolanos que están en huelga en su país, advirtió el director del Sindicato Unificado de Petroleros de Sao Paulo, Antonio Carlos Spis.

"El petrolero brasileño no es un frustra huelgas. Somos una categoría reconocida por nuestra actuación combativa y si respetamos las huelgas en Brasil ¿por qué no lo haríamos en otro país?", dijo Spis, que también es presidente de la Central Unitaria de los Trabajadores (CUT) en el estado de Sao Paulo, en declaraciones publicadas hoy por la prensa.

El líder sindical hizo la advertencia dos días después de que el presidente venezolano, Hugo Chávez, en un encuentro con el mandatario brasileño, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, solicitara el envío de técnicos de la petrolera brasileña Petrobras a Venezuela para superar la huelga en su país.

(Excerpt) Read more at emol.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: brazil; castro; chavez; communism; latinamerica; latinamericalist; lula; venezuela
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This is real trouble for Chavez, perhaps even the turning point...Here is a translation of the above paragraphs... perhaps someone better than me in Spanish can do the full translation and/or find an English article on the same subject...

RIO DE JANEIRO - The Brazilian oil workers will reject an invitation to replace Venezuelans that are on strike, warned the directory of the Union of Unified Oil Workers of Sao Paulo, Antonio Carlos Spis.

"The Brazilian oil worker is not a strike breaker. We are known for our pugnacious actions and if we honor Brazilian picket lines, why would we not do the same in other countries?" Said Spis, who is also the president of the Unified Center of Workers (CUT) in the state of Sao Paolo, in press articles published today.

The union leader made this warning two days after the Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez met with Luiz Ignacio Lula da Silva and asked him to send technical support workers from Petrobas, the Brazilian oil company, in order to overcome the Venezuelan strike...

1 posted on 01/04/2003 6:43:17 AM PST by chilepepper
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To: chilepepper
mr chavez is in a pickle of his own making, it is either gonna end good or bad, time will tell.
2 posted on 01/04/2003 6:51:09 AM PST by wita
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To: chilepepper
So... South American nations recently elect devoutly communist Presidents and Castro admirers, the socialist organizations refuse to work in protest, and neither would allow free market forces to help fix their problems. I have no clue who to root for.
3 posted on 01/04/2003 6:59:52 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317
You should examine history for a possible answer as to who to root for. The American trade union movement in the 1950s and 1960s was a bulwark against marxism in the United States. These were the days when Democrat meant Henry (Scoop) Jackson. This now defunct right wing of the Democrat party was pro-civil rights and staunchly anti-communist. They resemble in many ways the modern Republican Party, the modern Democrat party having fallen off the edge on the left. Perhaps the trade unions in Latin America are going to follow this model.
4 posted on 01/04/2003 7:34:39 AM PST by trek
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To: Teacher317
So... South American nations recently elect devoutly communist Presidents and Castro admirers, the socialist organizations refuse to work in protest, and neither would allow free market forces to help fix their problems. I have no clue who to root for.

Yeh. This should be interesting to watch. Who will end up eating who?

5 posted on 01/04/2003 7:38:56 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: chilepepper
And to think, Freepers laugh at me when I say Unions have a place in society.

See how grand it is when worker can collect and act as a block against the might of stronger forces like a cruel socialist gov't. Don't get me wrong now, I'm not a marxist. But workers should strike against any organization that tries to exploit them(and not in the sense of any profit is exploitation) or doesn't consider their safety.

A little "mob-ism" to beat a thuggish gov't seems to be appropriate.
6 posted on 01/04/2003 7:42:45 AM PST by Bogey78O
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To: trek
The American trade union movement in the 1950s and 1960s was a bulwark against marxism

Geez. That's changed! They now have their own socialist propaganda website! They live to share the wealth!

7 posted on 01/04/2003 7:42:56 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
There's no question whom we would should be rooting for. The strike is the only weapon that the residents have in their struggle to regain their democracy from Chavez.
8 posted on 01/04/2003 7:43:14 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: chilepepper
Wow. Not only is this bad for Chavez, it sends Lula a message, too.
9 posted on 01/04/2003 7:44:22 AM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: chilepepper
From the AP:

Supporters of President Hugo Chavez planned a street march on Saturday after the leader said he would consider imposing martial law to quell Venezuela's internal crisis and put the brakes on escalating political violence.

Presidential supporters said they would march "to defend" state-run oil company PDVSA against a five-week strike that has paralyzed the oil industry and forced the government to import gasoline.

Gunfire erupted Friday during an opposition march on the headquarters of the armed forces, Caracas Fire Chief Rodolfo Briceno said. Two people died of gunshot wounds and at least 78 others were injured five of them by gunshots.

It was unclear who fired on the demonstrators, who were met by hundreds of Chavez supporters throwing rocks and bottles at security forces trying to keep the two sides apart.

"I am obligated to protect the people. I am obligated to protect public order," Chavez said. "If they force me to (decree martial law), I'd have to do it."

But, he added, "So far, despite everything that has happened, there has been no need to apply any exceptional measures."

Chavez made his comments after meeting with Cesar Gaviria, secretary general of the Organization of American States, who is trying to negotiate a settlement between the government and the opposition.

Daily street protests by Chavez opponents and supporters have been common since the opposition declared a general strike Dec. 2 in an attempt to oust the left-leaning Chavez.

Friday's anti-Chavez march deteriorated into a melee after the national guard fired tear gas and rubber bullets at a few hundred Chavez supporters, who were throwing rocks at security forces while waiting for marchers to arrive at a park near the military base entrance.

When marchers arrived and moved toward a security line, guardsmen fired more tear gas into the crowd. Shots then rang out.

The protest lasted several hours in the park, under a veil of tear gas, before marchers dispersed.

Opposition marcher Maria Arismendy crouched behind an ambulance, pouring water over the face of her small, howling dog.

"We're peaceful, but you see what they do," Arismendy said through her own tears. "We just want our country back. Chavez has ruined everything."

The injured included seven police officers, Police Chief Henry Vivas said. Opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez said 11 people were hurt in a stampede.

Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel on Friday blamed "irresponsible" march leaders for trying to enter the park, which the government has declared a security zone one of eight such zones in Caracas.

"They tried to break through a security barrier and that produced the clashes with security forces," Rangel told The Associated Press.

The last time people were killed during a political demonstration was Dec. 6, when three people were gunned down at an opposition rally. Dozens were killed in April rioting during a short-lived coup that briefly ousted Chavez. With support from loyalists in the military, Chavez regained power after two days.

"The force of law is going to be imposed here," Chavez said Friday.

Opposition leader Hermann Escarra warned, in comments broadcast on Globovision television, that Venezuelans would hold Chavez responsible if martial law was declared and civil rights were violated.

The marchers demanded the release of Gen. Carlos Alfonso Martinez, one of about 100 officers who revolted last fall. Martinez was arrested Dec. 30 without a required court order and remains under house arrest even though a judge ordered his release.

The opposition accuses Chavez of causing a deep recession here unemployment has reached 17 percent and inflation 30 percent under his rule. The opposition also charges Chavez with trying to impose a leftist, authoritarian government.

Chavez insists the opposition, which he calls the oligarchy, is trying to sabotage the economy to force him from power.

Chavez has agreed to a binding referendum on his presidency in August, halfway through his six-year term, which he says is the only way to test his support constitutionally.

The opposition wants a nonbinding referendum next month.

"We will resist until the end, until we achieve the objective of getting rid of Chavez and his authoritarian regime," said Carlos Ortega, president of the nation's largest trade union.

The strike has paralyzed oil production in Venezuela, the world's fifth-largest oil exporter and a top supplier to the United States. The strike helped push international oil prices above $30 per barrel and oil workers have defied a back-to-work order by the Supreme Court.

Since the strike began, Chavez has been forced to import food and fuel.

Ali Rodriguez, president of the state-owned oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela S.A., told the state news agency Venpres the government has purchased 250,000 barrels of gasoline from a U.S. firm and 600,000 more barrels from Russia.

Venezuela also has received gasoline shipments from Brazil and Trinidad and Tobago.

The government is trying to negotiate long-term import deals with those countries as well as Ecuador, Colombia and Mexico to meet domestic demand of 400,000 barrels a day.



10 posted on 01/04/2003 7:47:32 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Bogey78O
See how grand it is when worker can collect and act as a block against the might of stronger forces like a cruel socialist gov't.

But in America, that's what their union dues actually contribute to. American unions are not good for America, because we don't want a socialist government at all. We want to keep our free republic.

11 posted on 01/04/2003 7:47:47 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Dog Gone
There's no question whom we would should be rooting for. The strike is the only weapon that the residents have in their struggle to regain their democracy from Chavez.

If the union is socialist to begin with, how much do you want to bet they'll elect another socialist to replace him?
It's like Democrats in the US voting for Bill, and going back for more by voting Hillary! They never learn!

12 posted on 01/04/2003 7:50:04 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
Blame the leadership.

Most the guys in my union are card carrying republicans. Just let the 60s waste and thugs pas through the system.

Although I've noticed unions run by yankees are a whole nother story.
13 posted on 01/04/2003 7:57:15 AM PST by Bogey78O
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To: concerned about politics
I don't think the strike in Venezuela is an organized union action. Some workers are still on the job.

It's a political decision by workers who can bring the government to its knees by cutting off the main source of income to Chavez.

14 posted on 01/04/2003 8:00:49 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Bogey78O
Most the guys in my union are card carrying republicans. Just let the 60s waste and thugs pas through the system.

But their union dues goes to the Marxist DNC. They can stop it if they wish, but most are too frightened to stand up for what is right.

15 posted on 01/04/2003 8:05:26 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Dog Gone
It's a political decision by workers who can bring the government to its knees by cutting off the main source of income to Chavez.

And I hope it works, really.
I'm just saying they'll elect another just like him afterwards. They're socialists. Not the brightest thinkers in the gene pool.

16 posted on 01/04/2003 8:07:16 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Bogey78O
Having been signed to 5 labor contracts for over 40 years and served on the joint apprenticeship committee of the plasters and the joint adjustments board of the carpenters for many years my experience is that they are basicly socialists.

Many of the rank and file members aren't but they belong because of necesity to work but those that get elected to run the unions are socialists.

The current head of the International Carpenters which I served with was a BA for #1506 in Los Angeles, a nice enough guy and intelegent but a hard left democrat just the same.
17 posted on 01/04/2003 8:10:40 AM PST by dalereed
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To: chilepepper
bump
18 posted on 01/04/2003 8:14:49 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: concerned about politics
I'm just saying they'll elect another just like him afterwards. They're socialists. Not the brightest thinkers in the gene pool.

I see...You're suggesting that the smart ones will vote for someone who thinks the labor pool should be paid wages that are competetive with the chinese labor force including zero benefits...

Yep, you've got it all figured out...

19 posted on 01/04/2003 8:20:14 AM PST by Iscool
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To: dalereed
I don't understand why anyone would vote Democrat, i.e., Marxist/Socialist.
The Socialists use the "useful idiots" to get into power.
Once the Socialist come to their complete power, they no longer find the "useful idiots" useful. The "poor" become a burden on the rest of society, and are the first to be eliminated as "useless eaters."
The "poor" who vote Democrat because the Democrats say they're "for the little guy" are actually voting for their own demise.
That must be why the socialist public schools no longer teach history. The "useful idiots" are still useful - for now.
Give the Democrats a few years, and not only will poor minority black babies be abored by the millions like they are now, but the poorer elderly will be euthinized for the good of the whole.
Allow a few more Marxist presidents, and the poor are as good as dead. In the "perfect Marxist society", they're a plague.
20 posted on 01/04/2003 8:28:36 AM PST by concerned about politics
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