Canada unmoved by new U.S. evidence

Toranto Star ^ | 2/05/03 | JOHN WARD

[CanadianBacon]

I'm not against waiting for some weeks to invade Iraq and seeing if Saddam suddenly co-operates with inspections, eliminates his bag of goodies or even better packs up his household and moves to Libya. But what I do want to see is a continuing buildup of pressure on him, more deployments and the conversion of a previous fence sitter (hello Jean Chretien wake up) to a supporter to add international momentum against him.

However, my hopes for Chretien to do the right thing have always been disappointed, not by what he has done but by the fact he never does anything. It is government policy in Canada to delay and defer and hope things go away. Waiting for U.N. approval to support the U.S. is typical of this avoid a decision at all cost policy. We are an independent country and should make our own decisions to go to war or stay home. To allow the likes of Cameroon and the other bozos on the U.N. Security Council to make our national policy decisions on such an important matter is absolutely insane but all too typical.

[ThomasMore]

No need to apologize. We all have a$$holes in our respective countries. Just look at Kennedy, Dasshole, Boxer, Schumer, Conyers, McDermott....and the list goes on. We know there are a lot of good Canadians who are true allies.

Many of them retire to Florida. ;^)

[FreeCanuckistan]

"I can't help but wonder how long it would be if I responded in kind toward the US before I got thrown off"

My bet is that nothing would happen to you. I'd like to add that although I agree with your assessment of some American's "ignorance shown toward Canadians".....I find personally, that their numbers are small and equal to the ignorance of some of our fellow Canadians. I dare say that we neighbour's have no time or reason to bicker.....we are not each other's enemy.

[Archimedes2000]

Snowyman, I have to say, as someone who was born in Canada, and now lives in the US, I am extremely appalled by the rabid anti-Americanism and anti-West sentiment exhibited by a LARGE segment of Canada's population. It's not just coming from the PM's office, it's newspapers, TV stations, etc.

Check out some of the Canadian chat rooms sometime, it's hard to believe.

I feel sorry for you, I really do. But I think Canada is rapidly declining into a nation led and supported by people with fringe ideologies, like Libby Davies. The constant assault on all things American from Canada is troubling, and it's been that way for a long time, growing worse by the day.

[Steve0113]

No one admits to voting liberal here either. But someone did.

No doubt. In the 12 years since Clinton was first elected, I've encountered exactly five people who will admit to having voted for him. But, as you say, someone did.

As far as this twit is concerned, after reading the posts on this thread, I can't help but wonder how long it would be if I responded in kind toward the US before I got thrown off.

Won't happen, but I'd be glad if you didn't.

I'm disgusted by the level of ignorance shown toward the Canadians that do come here.

I can only ask you to ignore them. Neither of our countries has any shortage of idiots. I've seen the same level of scorn directed at Britain, and it's just as foolish.

We would gladly give our support, although , beyond it being the right thing to do , after reading the crap posted here, I 'm really beginning to question why.

See above.

[Steve0113]

I dare say that we neighbour's have no time or reason to bicker.....we are not each other's enemy.

Amen.

[Let's Roll]

I think they try to have it both ways. They can shelter under the American military umbrella while at the same time wrapping themselves in their holier than thou deeds and words. So easy to appear peace-loving and non-judgmental when you can let someone else do the heavy lifting. God knows their hearts - they will not get away with it. if they're even concerned with God

[VOA]

So far, Canada has said it will await the decision of the Security Council, but Prime
Minister Jean Chrétien has not closed the door on joining the United States
without further UN approval.

Revelation 3:16
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Fortunately for Chretien and fellow liberal-socialist weasels in Canada, The Master
is not directly making the decision about who will join the USA and UK on the winning side...
(all this said with knowledge of the many good folks in Canada)

[Steve0113]

I think they try to have it both ways.

Yes, but the "they" is the socialist government, not the people. Don't ever forget that.

[Mark17]

America has a small glimmer of hope left, but it's looking more and more like patriots will have to battle communists on American soil before long.

I have been expecting that for 30 years.

[Let's Roll]

I'd like to believe that, Steve, but I'm not hearing anything else. There's Mark Steyn and that's it. Are Canadians that passive? If so, then their media and govt do speak for them. I would have thought that Canada at least would understand that we are gearing up to fight back because we are the target. Liberating the Iraqi people sounds good on the nightly news but they've needed liberating for decades. The real reason is our survival - that alone should focus Canada if for no other reason than proximity?

[Clive]

You have obviously not seen the many editorials and columns posted by me and others from Sun Media papers and the National Post and to a lesser extent the Globe and Mail.

I did not stereotype Yanks based on the antics of Clinton Paul Begala or Daschle or on the overwhelming influence of the East Coast, California and DC media on the formation of opinion in the US. Why does it seem necessary that Freepers stereotype all Canadians?

In my city, Toronto, there are 4 major dailies (more than in most US cities) of which two tend to the right, one centris and clearly left.

[Clive]

I should have added that the Toronto Star from which this article was posted is a left wing rag and a Liberal Party house organ.

[Steve0113]

I'd like to believe that, Steve, but I'm not hearing anything else.

See posts 18, 19, 22, 33, 37 and 66. Then tell me you aren't hearing anything else. Mark Steyn isn't the only Canadian who's on our side.

[FreeCanuckistan]

"There's Mark Steyn and thats it"

There's also FreeCanuckistan......consider taking a head count.

[Snowyman]

I again read were we are living under American military protection. NORAD is a two way effort and the citizens of the US lived for years and still do, under the watchful eye of what remains of the the DEW line in Canada. The Bomarc missile program of the 60's would have destroyed the Canadian population had it been used. We were expendable. There was no protection there. But on 9/11, when the US closed it's air space , Canada landed the planes. Each one represented potential missile. Where was the protection then ? We had our real estate on the line . For who?


" Chretien today told the House of Commons that the Government of Canada is waiting for the UN report .

Prime Minister Jean Chretien repeated in the Commons that if the Security Council decides on the use of force, Canada will do its part. But he, too, ignored the question of what Canada would do if the Americans move without UN approval.

A number of MPs, both in committee and in the Commons, were pessimistic about prospects for peace.

"I don't think war can be avoided," said Liberal John Harvard.

"The ball is firmly in Iraq's court," Graham said.

If Saddam Hussein is prepared to co-operate with arms inspections, there is a chance for a peaceful resolution, he said, but that would require a major change in behaviour. "

I have heard the RCR (Royal Canadian Regt.) has been quietly told to start packing. HMCS Regina, departed for the region last weekend and the HMCS Fredericton, is to leave on Feb. 17. to replace the HMCS Montreal and HMCS Winnipeg . We have had ships there since Oct. 2001.

[Let's Roll]

Glad to hear from all of you. You obviously understand how serious this could become for Canada too.

[Kevin Curry]

"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed. If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

- Winston Churchill

[FreeCanuckistan]

"Glad to hear from all of you........"

Let's roll!

[Mr. Mojo]

It's good there are conservatives like you up there to keep an eye on the Marxists.