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Canada unmoved by new U.S. evidence
Toranto Star ^ | 2/05/03 | JOHN WARD

Posted on 02/05/2003 5:52:28 PM PST by kattracks

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To: ruready4eternity
we are with you ...

I believe you. It's your leadership that worries me. (None of us are perfect - we have DemocRATic leadership that fails day in/day out to reflect the values of the general populace).

It is inconceivable to me to think that the Canadians are not allied with us. As countries, we've always been good neighbors - like Peanut Butter and Jelly or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis.

In times of trouble the US would not abandon Canada.

J.Q.

61 posted on 02/05/2003 8:15:46 PM PST by jqpublic (Axis of Weasels - France, Germany and Canada. (With apologies to Weasels everywhere!))
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To: kattracks
guess we can't rely on Dudley Doright to help us overthrow Saddam's evil regime.

63 posted on 02/05/2003 8:36:26 PM PST by arielb
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To: kattracks
LINKS OF INTEREST:

RootingOutEvil.org

PAK TODAY.com - PAKISTAN TODAY: "THE FRANCHISING OF HEZBOLLAH" by Avi Davis (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Western intelligence has now revealed a high level of cooperation between Bin Laden and Imad Muganiyeh, the Hezbullah terrorist who masterminded some of Hezbollah's most spectacular atrocities and kidnappings in Lebanon. Reports have Muganiyeh first meeting with Bin Laden as early as 1995 and those meetings have continued. More than this, since al-Qaida fled Afghanistan at the end of last year, the Sunday Telegraph reports, between 80 and 100 al- Qaida fighters were provided with false passports by Hezbollah before being relocated to southern Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Yemen. The same report acknowledges that Hezbollah, working hand in hand with al-Qaida, has set up cells in the Far East - including Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines and Singapore. It is well known that Hezbollah has operated in Gaza and the West Bank for years, but the recent revelation by the Shin Bet in Israel that al- Qaida has now also joined them there, is chilling evidence of a level of cooperation previously unsuspected. Such news comes as a dire warning to American, Israeli and Jewish communities throughout the world.") (122702)

ALBAWABA.com: "IS HIZBULLAH INVISIBLE LEADER INVOLVED IN ACTIVITIES IN CANADA?" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In the United States, authorities believe that perhaps one of the world's most wanted men is behind the Canadian organization, which has raised funds, falsified documents and purchased military equipment for Hizbullah. In Washington, officials currently suspect that the agents sent to Canada to gather support for the Hizbullah work for Mugniyah, a top-level Hizbullah leader and the suspected mastermind of numerous attacks worldwide.") (120102)

NATIONAL POST.com: "LEADING TERROR SUSPECT TIED TO CANADIAN CELL Imad Mugniyah: Academic Fears Operations Could Be Launched 'In and From' Canada" by Stewart Bell (111202)

***FBI.gov: MOST WANTED TERRORISTS: "IMAD FAYEZ MUGNIYAH" aka "Hajj" (WANTED POSTER SNIPPETS: "Mugniyah is the alleged head of the security apparatus for the terrorist organization, Lebanese Hizballah."..."The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension and/or conviction of Imad Fayez Mugniyah."..."SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS")

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "A DOZEN PAKISTANIS ARRESTED IN CREDIT CARD FRAUD PROBE" by Jerry Seper (ARTICLE SNIPPETS: ""They made $5 million and we just don't see it in lavish lifestyles or expensive toys," Mr. McNulty said, noting that task force investigators were concerned about a lack of tangible evidence to show how the credit card ring spent its illicit profits." ..."Mr. McNulty said the man suspected of being the ringleader, Shah Nawaz, fled to Pakistan with others named in the scheme. He said some of the ring's profits were transferred to banks in Pakistan and Canada, noting that investigators traced $100,000 to specific outlets in those two countries. He said the scheme operated mostly on the East Coast, from Virginia to New York, and primarily focused on credit card, Social Security and immigration fraud.") (January 30, 2003)

NATIONAL POST.com: "HAMILTON MAN ADMITS HE KNEW TERRORISTS" by Tom Blackwell (ARTICLE NOTE: The suspect is identified as Abdellah Ouzghar, age 38, a Moroccan-Canadian.) (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "An Ontario man convicted in France of belonging to an Islamic terror group said yesterday he made repeated social visits to the Montreal apartment where Ahmed Ressam and other Muslim extremists lived. Abdellah Ouzghar said he knew several Montreal residents who have since been found guilty of terrorist-related acts, including reputed ringleader Fateh Kamel. Ressam was found guilty of plotting to set off a huge bomb at the Los Angeles airport during millennium celebrations, and was arrested trying to cross the Canada-U.S. border in a car packed with explosives. "(011603)

NATIONAL POST.com ("A Part of Canada.com): "THE GOOD SON" by Isabel Vincent (ARTICLE SNIPPETS: "Omar Khadr: from Toronto's suburbs to bin Laden's army: 'Omar was always there for us,' says sister of teenager accused of killing U.S. soldier"..."Omar's father, Ahmed Khadr, is suspected of being one of Osama bin Laden's key lieutenants and a high-ranking member of the terrorist group Egyptian Islamic Jihad. He is hiding in rural Pakistan.") (122802)

CANADA.com - THE OTTAWA CITIZEN (THE MONTREAL GAZETTE): "CANADIAN ACTIVIST WON'T LEAVE WEST BANK" (ARTICLE NOTE: The "Canadian activist" is Jaggi Singh, age 29.) (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Mr. Singh said he also intends to visit the Jenin refugee camp or other areas of "Palestinian resistance."") (122702)

NATIONAL POST.com - Series: "In Case of Emergency": "A NUCLEAR BOMB ENTERS THE PORT" by Richard Foot (ARTICLE SNPPET: "The threat of terrorist acts against North America has not diminished since it was made real on Sept. 11, 2001. U.S. authorities have warned al-Qaeda may be planning "spectacular attacks," and Osama bin Laden has threatened that Canada will pay for supporting the United States. How ready are we to respond to an act of terrorism on our soil? Today, in the conclusion of a series exploring the state of Canada's preparedness, the National Post examines the potential for mayhem should a nuclear bomb be smuggled into the Port of Halifax.") (010603)

***THE STAR.com - THE TORONTO STAR (CANADIAN PRESS): Ottawa. "CANADA ALLOWS IMPORT OF BOMB BOOK" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The federal government has approved the importation of a book that gives detailed instructions for making bombs and blowing up bridges, the Ottawa Citizen reported yesterday. Even the author of The Anarchist Cookbook has renounced it as "misguided and potentially dangerous." But the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency says there is nothing to prevent its sale in Canada because it violates neither the hate law nor obscenity law, the newspaper reported.") (121502)

***FBI.gov: SEEKING INFORMATION: "AMER EL-MAATI" akas "Amro Badr Eldin Abou El-Maati, Amro Badr Abouelmaati" (SEEKING INFORMATION POSTER SNIPPET: "Amer El-Maati is being sought in connection with possible terrorist threats in the United States."..."SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS")

64 posted on 02/05/2003 8:37:32 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Tamsey
"Colin Powell is asking us all to take quite a big leap of faith ... to believe these assertions are proof that Iraq is producing weapons of mass destruction"
.... I find it quite insulting that these countries are so hesitant to "believe" us...


Just for the record that's a quote from the Canadian Arab Federation not the government.

" Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham said today that U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell made a convincing presentation to the UN Security Council suggesting that "Iraq seems to be trying to fool" UN teams searching Iraq for caches of forbidden weapons. But, Graham added, Canada will await the decision of the council later this month before deciding on a course of action."

I see this as a positive step. The problem's seriousness is recognized and allows the U.N. prove its relevance. I have little doubt that Canada will climb onboard regardless of the final U.N. action/non-action. But it's a pity the government doesn't take a more vocal hardline against Hussein now, the best chance for a peaceful solution is unity among many countries all applying real pressure on Hussein and his regime.

66 posted on 02/05/2003 8:51:52 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Grig
don't go around thinking they represent us.

Hello? Who elected them?

Could it be...Satan?

67 posted on 02/05/2003 9:13:04 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: LibKill
Typical. I wonder how Canada's government got so leftist.

Draft dodgers, drug addicts, and their resident frogs is my guess.

68 posted on 02/05/2003 9:16:53 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Rome2000
Sorry,,take off the word "Canada" and that's a US coast guard tub....check the markings..http://www.uscg.mil/datasheet/images/WMEC-282.jpg
69 posted on 02/05/2003 9:20:40 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: M. Thatcher
Hello? Who elected them?

And you voted for Clinton. But I'll bet you deny it.

70 posted on 02/05/2003 9:23:37 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: Grig
Canada != Canadian people

government is freakin out of it's mind and EVERYONE up here knows it. Attack our governemnt all you want, but don't go around thinking they represent us.

Does anyone think the U.S. government represents the American people? Less then half of those eligible to vote voted and only a quarter of those eligible to vote selected President Bush.

71 posted on 02/05/2003 9:25:15 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Snowyman
And you voted for Clinton. But I'll bet you deny it.

You are on crack. But I'll bet you deny it.

72 posted on 02/05/2003 10:24:47 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher
Ease up a bit....Chretien is doing his thing with less than 45% of the popular vote. Clinton did that too.....

If we can forgive you for Clinton, despite his deficiences that threaten all of us today.....you can forgive us for our bumbling insignificant dishonorable PM.

73 posted on 02/05/2003 11:15:46 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: FreeCanuckistan
Ease up a bit.

Because some twit accused me of voting for Clinton?

74 posted on 02/05/2003 11:19:34 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher
"Because some twit accused me of voting for Clinton?"

No not that....only you know who you voted for. Ease up a bit on us here. Like I mentioned.....our PM is in office with less than 45% of the vote. Our PM isn't exactly gushing with popularity up here.

75 posted on 02/06/2003 12:12:40 AM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Does anyone think the U.S. government represents the American people? Less then half of those eligible to vote voted and only a quarter of those eligible to vote selected President Bush.

With rights come responsibilities. If someone's not going to vote, those of us who do get to make the decisions. By not bothering to show up, the nonvoters basically voted, "Whatever you guys want."

76 posted on 02/06/2003 12:15:02 AM PST by Timesink (My name's Harley Earl. And I've come back to build you a great tampon.)
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To: Leisler
 Foreigners Around The World
 Canadian

CANADIANS

Racial Characteristics:
Hard to tell a Canadian from an extremely boring regular white person unless he's dressed to go outdoors. Very little is known of the Canadian country since it is rarely visited by anyone but the Queen and illiterate sport fishermen. It is thought to resemble a sort of arctic Nebraska. It's reported that Canadians keep pet French people. If true, this is their only interesting trait. At any rate, they are apparently able to train Frenchmen to play hockey, which is more than any European has ever been able to do.

Good Points:
Still have plenty of Indians to abuse.

Proper Forms of Address:
Bud, mac, mister, hey you.

Some Examples of Canadian Repartee:
Two Canadians are talking in a bar. One Canadian says, "Who was that lady I saw you with last night?"
"That was my wife." replies the other.

A lady is shopping in a Toronto drugstore and accidentally leaves the bottle of aspirins that she bought on the counter. She gets on a bus and the minute the bus has pulled away from the curb remembers leaving her purchase behind. "My aspirins! My aspirins!" she yells.
And the bus driver says, "Maybe you left them in the drugstore."

77 posted on 02/06/2003 2:56:41 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Whoops, I thought she said "short-arms inspections".
78 posted on 02/06/2003 3:02:40 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: Snowyman
And you voted for Clinton.

You beat me to it. We Americans have a major glass-house issue with regard to elected leaders. We're in no position to be throwing stones at others.

79 posted on 02/06/2003 10:04:59 AM PST by Steve0113
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To: Steve0113
Thanks, I'm glad someone got my point. No one admits to voting liberal here either. But someone did.

As far as this twit is concerned, after reading the posts on this thread, I can't help but wonder how long it would be if I responded in kind toward the US before I got thrown off. There are few , if any , Canadian liberals reading these threads and I'm disgusted by the level of ignorance shown toward the Canadians that do come here. We would gladly give our support, although , beyond it being the right thing to do , after reading the crap posted here, I 'm really beginning to question why.
80 posted on 02/06/2003 10:35:37 AM PST by Snowyman
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