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Hurricane Isabel:Live Thread #2 "Force Ten Conditions In North Carolina And Further North"
NHC | 9-17-03 | My Favorite Headache

Posted on 09/17/2003 8:14:30 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Hurricane Isabel Advisory Number 48

Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on September 17, 2003

...Outer bands of Hurricane Isabel moving onshore...weather should gradually worsen...

A Hurricane Warning remains in effect from Cape Fear North Carolina to Chincoteague Virginia...including Pamlico and Albemarle sounds...and the Chesapeake Bay south of Smith Point. A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected within the warning area...generally within 24 hours.

All preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion in the Hurricane Warning area.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect south of Cape Fear to South Santee River South Carolina...and north of Chincoteague to Sandy Hook New Jersey...including Delaware Bay. A Tropical Storm Warning also remains in effect for the Chesapeake Bay from Smith Point northward...and for the tidal Potomac.

At 11 PM EDT...0300z...the center of Hurricane Isabel was located by an Air Force reconnaissance aircraft near latitude 31.9 north... longitude 73.9 west or about 250 miles south-southeast of Cape Hatteras North Carolina.

Isabel is moving toward the north-northwest near 13 mph. A turn to the northwest with an increase in forward speed is expected prior to landfall. On the forecast track...the center of Isabel is expected to make landfall in eastern North Carolina during the day Thursday. However...conditions will deteriorate over a large area well before the center reaches the coast. Tropical storm conditions are already spreading across the coastline.

Maximum sustained winds are near 105 mph...with higher gusts. A slight increase in strength is possible prior to landfall.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 115 miles from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 315 miles. A buoy located west of the hurricane recently reported wind gusts to 74 mph and 32 foot waves.

An Air Force hurricane hunter plane recently reported a minimum central pressure of 956 mb...28.23 inches.

Storm surge flooding of 7 to 11 feet above normal tide levels... along with extremely large and dangerous battering waves...is expected near and to the north of where the center crosses the coast. Storm surge flooding of 4 to 8 ft above normal tide levels is expected in Chesapeake Bay and the tidal portions of adjacent rivers.

Storm total rainfalls of 6 to 10 inches...with locally higher amounts...are likely in association with Isabel.

There is a threat of isolated tornadoes over eastern North Carolina and southeastern Virginia on Thursday.

Repeating the 11 PM EDT position...31.9 N... 73.9 W. Movement toward...north-northwest near 13 mph. Maximum sustained winds...105 mph. Minimum central pressure... 956 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor products issued by your local weather office.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at 2 am EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 5 am EDT.

Forecaster Avila


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricaneisabel; isabel; landfall
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To: Slip18; Fawnn
If you can tolerate the heat, AZ is the place to be. We need more conservatives here!

We could also use some good cooks...how 'bout it, Auntie Fawnn, wanna move to Arizona?

Well, I do have to warn you...Slippy may not have seen any scorpions, but I 'spect that's because she lives in the Valley...too urban for them. We've had one or two in the house. I've got to keep reminding the boys to shut the screen door. Our bug man says there's really no way to prevent them without poisoning the pets...they live in the rocks and rotting wood that make up a portion of my landscaping.

2,141 posted on 09/19/2003 10:24:08 AM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...)
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To: All
Went out this A.M. to check on my three horses at a farm outside of Leesburg VA. A huge run-in shed in one of the fields was completely destroyed by the winds last night - totally flattened! The shed was about 50 feet long, to give some idea of its size, and was not a flimsy structure. Fortunately none of the horses were injured when it went down. The winds there must have been stronger than in the immediate D.C. area. Also a lot of large branches down, and of course no power.
2,142 posted on 09/19/2003 10:26:22 AM PDT by slane
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To: HiJinx; Slip18
scorpions ... they live in the rocks and rotting wood that make up a portion of my landscaping.

Oh, wow! Where do I sign!? LOL (It's sounding like I'm better off around the critters I do know than to learn how to cope with new ones. Besides, the southwest would be a "fur" commute to the grandbabies' house!) ;)
2,143 posted on 09/19/2003 10:37:40 AM PDT by Fawnn (peeved pets ... peeved pets ... peeved pets ... peeved pets ... peeved pets ... peeved pets ... peev)
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To: Fawnn
Yeah, that 'fur' commute is how I know I don't have a snowball's chance in Tombstone of ever seeing you out here.

OTOH, if you ever need to get away, we're like the Motel 6 commercial...we'll leave the light on!

I haven't noticed any comments yet...are you getting any rain/wind from Isabel there on your West Coast?
2,144 posted on 09/19/2003 10:48:16 AM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...)
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To: HiJinx
OTOH, if you ever need to get away, we're like the Motel 6 commercial...we'll leave the light on!

And the scorpions out of the guest room, I hope! LOL!!!

...are you getting any rain/wind from Isabel there on your West Coast?

Nope. Nice 71-degree day here on the west coast of Ohio. According to weather.com, we're not even expected to get any rain until Monday!
2,145 posted on 09/19/2003 10:54:08 AM PDT by Fawnn (God's in His Heaven (always true). All's right with the world (prayers needed for the last part))
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To: HiJinx
I may have spoke too soon: It sure is getting windy here!
2,146 posted on 09/19/2003 11:44:53 AM PDT by Fawnn (God's in His Heaven (always true). All's right with the world (prayers needed for the last part))
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To: slane
Thought I'd slip in this thread with an updated report on the hurricane and its after-effects.

I am the woman that had TWO houses to worry about, the one in Delaware where we now live and one in Pasadena, Merryland that is now for sale. The one in Merryland is on the water.

Here in Delaware we lost our cable which is now back on. No electricity loss at all. I walked the mutts this morning and everything looks fine down here.

My daughter lives in Baltimore and had no electricity last night up until an hour ago when I talked to her. She drove down to the waterfront property and had good news and bad news.

The house is fine with a little bit of water in the basement. The electricity, oddly, is still on in that now empty house. There are tree limbs all over the yard.

The river, my goodness, she told me the roof of my boat pavillion is the only thing showing. This boat pavillion is about 20 feet high!

I asked her if she was sure about this, trying to imagine such a thing. She said the river was into the back yard some twenty five closer to the house than it had ever been. She couldn't believe her eyes. This was her childhood home and we have seen the river rise pretty high. She said the boat house, a two story structure, is completed flooded on the first floor.

The company I consult for has a marina on Kent Island. The owner called me and told me his property is under four feet of water and he has boats on the parking lot!

Seems the Chesapeake Bay got quite a storm surge with Isabel. Fox news is showing pics of Baltimore and Annapolis. The inner harbor in Baltimore overflowed the banks and is causing quite some chaos. They have been periodically interviewing Ehrlich and O'Malley.

Here I live about 8 miles from the ocean in Delaware and I was nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs over this hurricane. In fact, husband and I talked about going back to Merryland to our empty waterfront home to be safer.

Heh. We were safer 8 miles from the ocean than we would have been there! Thankfully the house is high on the hill at the waterfront property and daughter reports it is fine. SHE still has no electicity while I am snug with all services eight miles down from the Atlantic Ocean.

Go figger.

2,147 posted on 09/19/2003 11:45:52 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Fawnn
Hi Fawnn.... I have just mentioned to many via email & a few posts re: us missing all the wind. (maybe I also spoke too soon??).. only 7mph from west now.

Looking forward to next Thurs.. will you still be there?
2,148 posted on 09/19/2003 12:03:40 PM PDT by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have Arrived !)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
It looks like I spoke too soon about our trees coming through intact. DH went out at 11 to find that one of our tulip poplars was partly uprooted and leaning on a neighbor. The uprooted 100+ foot tree was aimed at the back of our house.

Oh my. Try finding a tree surgeon for an emergency visit in the aftermath of a hurricane while a tree is being uprooted by continuing high winds . . . I must have called half the numbers in the book, and was largely resigned to having the tree fall on the house. By some miracle, one of the tree guys took pity on us and inserted us into his schedule, showing up 10 minutes after I called. He and his helper managed to stablilize the tree and dropped both of these monsters safely in the back yard. It will be expensive, but nothing compared to the cost of having them fall on the house. I was very grateful to the tree surgeon. He has saved us untold grief and expense.

2,149 posted on 09/19/2003 12:10:30 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Fishtalk
Good news! Thanks for report!
2,150 posted on 09/19/2003 12:11:55 PM PDT by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have Arrived !)
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To: Howlin
Thinking of you and praying all is fine.
2,151 posted on 09/19/2003 12:30:13 PM PDT by amom
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To: HiJinx; Fawnn
Well, Auntie Fawnn already has family here and friends! Can't have too many friends, eh?

We do live in the East Valley. Haven't seen a scorpion yet. Haven't seen a flea nor a tick either. LOL!

2,152 posted on 09/19/2003 12:32:14 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: Fishtalk
Will you check in here to tell us if you're all okay? It's hard to ping 1000 folks to the thread!
2,153 posted on 09/19/2003 12:37:14 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: Think free or die
Can you claim the tree as a dependent and have it covered on your major medical policy? ;^)

Glad you saw that tree in time...... what a horrible mess that would have caused!

2,154 posted on 09/19/2003 1:22:02 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Y'all might get a kick out of this story.
2,155 posted on 09/19/2003 2:20:21 PM PDT by snopercod (And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.)
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To: Think free or die
Good news about getting a tree company so fast. We drove around Great Falls trying to get into one of the riverside parks, and saw maybe a couple hundred downed trees, including several that were resting on powerlines, suspended over the road.

One very impressive fallen multi-line powerline, where the pole and crossbar and tree almost blocked the road, the insulators were smashed.

One that had fallen onto the roof of a two story house in a new subdivision, not much apparent damage, perhaps because the houses there are being made of that plywood stuff instead of 2x4s.

Tree company trucks everywhere, and the sound of chainsaws filled the air.
2,156 posted on 09/19/2003 3:39:44 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Fairfax County near Fairfax City.)
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To: Conservative4Ever; Gabz; iceskater; steveegg; glock rocks; All
OK, I'm back for a little while. I'm using a laptop/dial in modem and using a flashlight to type by since our power is still out.

We lost power about 1200 yesterday, but the winds really didn't pick up untul about 1700. We came though the storm pretty well, but I've worked all day today helping neighbors remove downed trees from their houses with my chainsaw. We also drove over to our church and helped clear debris there for Sunday services.

Right now, we're under curfew in Newport News tonight and are supposed to boil water for the next couple of days. Dominion Power is already saying it may take up to a week to restore power.

My family and I are O.K. I have 35 gallons of water jugged for emergencies plus propane and camp fuel out the whazzoo. We have canned and dry food enough for a week, so we're in good shape.

I'll check in now and again to see what's happening in the world. Meanwhile, please pray for those who need help. Oh, and zot any trolls for me!!

Thanks! Jonah.

2,157 posted on 09/19/2003 3:48:22 PM PDT by Jonah Hex (kittens are only dangerous if you're a 'Rat.)
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To: Jonah Hex
Status in Richmond, Virginia:

Power is off area-wide in all Central Virginia.
Water is mostly on, but must be boiled.

Land line phones are mostly on.

Cooking on propane grills.
Some stores open for canned goods.
No ice or water to be bought within 100 miles.

Laptop with battery - charged in the car.

A good friend and his wife are now in Medical College of Virginia hospital. Punctured lung, broken legs, head injury, from a tree crashing into their house. But alive, thank god.
2,158 posted on 09/19/2003 3:59:34 PM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
Ususally the air feels "balmy," if you understand. I mean, it's almost like you can "feel" the tropics in the air.

We were able to get just a whiff of that tropical ocean air here in the WNC mountains during Floyd, but it hasn't come in yet with Isabel -- this afternoon, maybe.

We are seeing the outermost bands of clounds from Isabel in the upper atmosphere now, just above the ridgeline of the Blue Ridge -- skies to the west are sunny and clear, temps in the 50s moving into the 60s. Sorry you folks in the east aren't sharing our mountain weather today!

Footnote: that balmy tropical ocean air finally did arrive in WNC Thursday evening, around 8-11pm or so.

2,159 posted on 09/19/2003 4:09:11 PM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: Jonah Hex
Take care and God bless, Jonah.

you haven't missed much in terms of "news" coverage of the storm. there was an incredible amount of flooding in MD and VA... the photo score was well ... it's early.

as for Dominion Power... I was actually impressed with their efforts, and during any event of this magnitude, linemen and equipment from all over the country come to help put people back online. One such hero lost his life yesterday. It's a tough job, and I see these guys are like the wildfire fighters we have out here in the west. They're pros in a dangerous job.

Sounds like you were prepared, and sounds like you're a good hearted neighbor. Thanks for the ping, and I hope all goes smoothly for you over the next few weeks. It's gotta be a headshaking experience.

2,160 posted on 09/19/2003 5:30:46 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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