ftD, on the thread "Jesus Died for All, Not Just for a Select Few," we have a calvinist proving an unlimited atonement beyond a reasonable doubt. It was a nice touch having a calvinist DISPROVE point 3 of the tulip construct.
1. T - Everyone's flippin' crazy and corrupt.
2. U - God's picks some for heaven and some for hell.
3. L - Then he died ONLY for the ones he picked.
4. I - Then he forced them on the busride to heaven.
5. P - And he ain't lettin' any of 'em off 'til they get there.
Given their system, it makes sense SINCE he picked some for heaven and some for hell, that he dies ONLY for those that he picked for heaven.
But now we got a calvinist saying that ACTUALLY the bible DOES SAY that Jesus died for EVERYONE.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why God would die for someone he provided no remedy to; someone he would unerringly throw into hell ... with no hope that that could be changed. That doesn't make sense....outside of God being schizoid.
It makes sense if he died for those he had some hope for. And since the c'vist scholar I quoted says Jesus died for all, then that only makes sense if EVERYONE has a fair and equal shot at a real, unprogrammed hope.
#1- the man who wrote this is not a Calvinist or he would believe in limited atonement.
#2 Your comments on this thread are very unbecoming for a minister of the gospel. Not only are you misrepresenting Calvinism, but even the title is a misrepresentation of what we believe. We have no idea how many God elected. He could have elected everyone for all we know. Your "select few" terminology is a deliberate misrepresentation, no, it is a lie and I am quite frankly getting very tired of the Arminians misrepresenting Calvinism with their ugly Satanic venom (what else can you call the mean spiritedness in comments. NOTE: Calvinists can yield to the flesh and the devil just as well as Arminians. I'm just calling them as I am seeing them at the current moment). You had better pray you are right about everything because you are not engaging in debate or discourse but insults and deliberate devisiveness of which the Christ who called for unity would not be pleased.