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China's Support for U.S. on Terror Is a Dramatic About-Face
The New York Times ^ | September 30, 2001 | ERIK ECKHOLM

Posted on 09/30/2001 3:05:44 PM PDT by aculeus

BEIJING, Sept. 29 — Despite a history of condemning American incursions abroad and a chronic fear of encirclement by the West, the Chinese government has expressed strong support for the new American war on terrorism. It even seems to accept the idea of limited American military strikes in China's own neighborhood.

Like Russia, which has also performed a stunning about-face, China has practical reasons for supporting a campaign against violent Islamic fundamentalists. Though it has been spared any bloody conflict comparable to that in Chechnya, China fears the emergence of unrest and terrorism at home, most immediately in the largely Muslim frontier province of Xinjiang, where a stewing separatist movement has occasionally set off bombs or attacked the police.

But the Chinese leaders also see an opportunity in the current crisis to meet a broader goal: to forge an improvement in overall relations with the United States and other Western countries, according to policy experts and diplomats on both sides of the Pacific.

"The Chinese government understands that if the United States can be attacked like this, so can China," said Lu Gang, professor of Russian studies at East China Normal University in Shanghai. "Beijing is hosting the 2008 Olympics, and if the menace of international terrorism isn't extinguished by then, China could face a direct and serious threat."

"I'm hopeful that this event will help the United States and China find more common ground and lead to an improvement in relations," Mr. Lu added. "Not just an improvement, but a major improvement."

Western diplomats here say it is too soon to tell if Chinese-American relations will be transformed, but they do not describe the hope as far- fetched.

China's leaders are watching, warily, to see how the geopolitics of Central Asia will be redrawn as the confrontation with the Taliban plays out. They are deeply worried about the fate of their nuclear-armed ally Pakistan, which could be torn apart. They hope that their fledgling alliance with Russia and nearby Muslim states of the former Soviet Union, largely meant to counter groups like the Taliban, can be strengthened.

At the same time, Beijing does not relish seeing a new Western military beachhead so near its homeland, and like Moscow it fears that Washington might go overboard in its retribution.

Still, the Chinese can quietly rejoice in the shift in Washington's priorities toward a shared concern. Many Chinese and Western scholars say that if China can join meaningfully in the antiterror campaign, mutual trust may build and the obsession of Republican hawks with a "China threat" may fade.

"For China, this is a chance for a fresh start with the Bush administration," said Chas. W. Freeman, a defense consultant and former diplomat in Washington who was in Beijing right after the Sept. 11 events speaking with officials and scholars.

The smoothing of economic and political ties with the West is a prime goal of the leaders here, who see domestic development and stability as their overriding challenge and who are already bracing for new pressures as the country enters the World Trade Organization.

Beijing officials know that vital differences over Taiwan and human rights will not disappear. But to the extent that China's internal opponents resort to terrorist tactics, officials have indicated, they do expect more sympathy from abroad. "There should be no double standards," a spokesman said last week.

For now, the Chinese are still hedging their bets about the American-led campaign. Since the day of the hijackings and attacks, the television and press here have had instructions to keep their reporting on a modest keel — factual, but not nearly as extensive or emotional as coverage in most media worldwide. Diplomats here think this reflects the ruling party's reluctance to stir up public passions too much before it is sure about China's official stance.

But so far both sides have "sent the right signals," as a European diplomat here put it, with China publicly acknowledging the enormity of the crimes and the need for a robust American response, and the United States, for its part, taking unusual care to gain multilateral support.

China has said it will not become directly involved in the current military campaign, although in a sign of the cooperative mood a team of Chinese security specialists just visited Washington for rare exchanges that American officials called useful.

It has left intentionally vague just how much American military action it could countenance, apparently waiting to see what happens first.

Still, the contrast with China's vitriolic reaction to the Kosovo war is stark. This time, it has simply said that any immediate punitive measures should be justified by evidence, be precise and "consistent with the United Nations Charter and international law," a vague call that American actions will arguably meet in any case.

But if the United States is to keep China and many other countries on board, it will need to seek a strong United Nations role in the prolonged war against terrorism, diplomats here say.

Even before this month's attacks, China and Russia had forged an unusual form of regional collaboration against unrest, joining with four neighboring Muslim states — Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan — in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Formally started last June, the group is to share intelligence and is establishing a regional antiterrorism center, intended to monitor threats like the Taliban-supported rebels in Uzbekistan.

China and Russia have also signed a broader friendship agreement; it is a largely symbolic measure intended to offset what both countries have seen as dangerous American dominance in the world.

The new ties that each country has formed with Washington in recent weeks, and the American bows toward multinational cooperation, could have the surprising effect of reducing the drive for China and Russia to build a stronger alliance.

"If the United States doesn't act too unilaterally in this antiterror campaign — if China and Russia can feel that they are included — then they won't have so much incentive to join together in opposition to American hegemony," Mr. Freeman said.


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We have more support in Moscow and Beijing than among the Professoriat at our leading universities.
1 posted on 09/30/2001 3:05:44 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
They're just hoping we screw up and get our butts kicked.
2 posted on 09/30/2001 3:18:06 PM PDT by freedomson
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To: aculeus
Don't bet on it. China is in it up to their ears. Just read article concerning new colition against war on terrorism.
3 posted on 09/30/2001 3:18:17 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: aculeus
Not a dramatic "about face" but rather a dramatic "two face".
4 posted on 09/30/2001 3:18:43 PM PDT by super175
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To: aculeus
At the momentwe have more gestures of support worldwide because everyone knows we didn't get a terminal wound. The same sort of reaction you would expect if you tried to beat a pit bull with a stick and suddenly discovered that the chain around its neck was no longer fastened to the stake.
5 posted on 09/30/2001 3:19:57 PM PDT by piasa
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To: aculeus
In "1984," didn't governments engage in quick about-faces and nobody said anything? In fact, they told everyone there was no change at all. That must be what it's like in China.
6 posted on 09/30/2001 3:21:00 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: aculeus
Art of War

China wants the US to abandon Taiwan

7 posted on 09/30/2001 3:23:44 PM PDT by super175
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To: xm177e2
What happened in 1984?
8 posted on 09/30/2001 3:24:50 PM PDT by super175
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To: aculeus
China and the Taliban
9 posted on 09/30/2001 3:25:46 PM PDT by super175
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To: piasa
bump #5
10 posted on 09/30/2001 3:26:39 PM PDT by super175
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To: aculeus
One of the reasons the Chinese are cheering on our involvement in this "get rid of terrorists" business this time is that these terrorists hold the world's largest reserve of opium.

The Chinese are just now getting over their national destruction initiated in the 1700s with cheap and legal opium. As they start making a little money, they don't want opium use to return.

Chinese people, in general, do not waste anything - certainly not the opportunity to have the richest country in the world destroy the opium reserves that threaten them.

I would suggest that if this event in Afghanistan wipes out the opium supply, we use the same technique on the terrorists in Columbia, and get rid of the cocain supply.

11 posted on 09/30/2001 3:29:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: freedomson
They're just hoping we screw up and get our butts kicked.

Wrong, for several reasons.

They are not stupid.

They have television and saw the planes crashing.

They have the Olympics coming up. (Taiwan will not be invaded until after the Olympics, if ever.)

They know the moslems hate communism.

I've been saying since day one (9/11) that the world, China included, is now unitied against terrorism.

(If we lose who's going to buy their consumer goods which count for many more dollars than any weapons sold to third world countries?)

12 posted on 09/30/2001 3:30:05 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: xm177e2
LOL, yes, I think so- very Orwellian. With the 'five minute hates' and so forth to go with the enemy du jour.
13 posted on 09/30/2001 3:30:20 PM PDT by piasa
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To: aculeus
China builds a phone system in Kabul (for the Taliban)

Some reports even have China paying the Taliban $10m USD, and provding military training...

14 posted on 09/30/2001 3:30:37 PM PDT by super175
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To: aculeus
Though it has been spared any bloody conflict comparable to that in Chechnya, China fears the emergence of unrest and terrorism at home, most immediately in the largely Muslim frontier province of Xinjiang, where a stewing separatist movement has occasionally set off bombs or attacked the police.

But the Chinese leaders also see an opportunity in the current crisis to meet a broader goal: to forge an improvement in overall relations with the United States and other Western countries, according to policy experts and diplomats on both sides of the Pacific.

Completely self serving. China is banking on a more tolerant attitude in which they can deal with, ahem, 'terrorists' at home.

Watch how fast the time honored crime of 'hooliganism' becomes 'terrorism'.

15 posted on 09/30/2001 3:32:16 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: super175
"1984" isn't a date, it's the name of a book by George Orwell. It's not very long, and it's a very good read. I highly recommend reading it.
16 posted on 09/30/2001 3:34:52 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: aculeus
They are not stupid.

True

They have the Olympics coming up. (Taiwan will not be invaded until after the Olympics, if ever.)

They hate America and America's support for Taiwan. They are trying to diminish America and force us out of Asia.

They know the moslems hate communism.

There are millions of Muslims in China. Maybe 30 million or so. Suffice it to say not all hate communism.

I've been saying since day one (9/11) that the world, China included, is now unitied against terrorism.

I don't think so. China thinks Tibetians, and Taiwanese are terrorists.

PRC Unrestricted Warfare and Terrorism

18 posted on 09/30/2001 3:42:01 PM PDT by super175
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To: aculeus
Looks like everyone is dialing 911 for the USA terror-cops. Would they mind helping us pay the bill?
19 posted on 09/30/2001 3:42:09 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: american arnie james
They have been awfully quiet lately and hopefully it wont be because the money trail leads to them. Seems like something is going down with them. Noone is looking at China at all and they are suddenly very close mouthed. Cant help but think of the Klinton years when we had an administration stupid enough to give all our secrets away to the Chinese.
20 posted on 09/30/2001 3:44:15 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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