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MIKE (BLOOMBERG) OPENS FIRE ON GUN MAKERS
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/38437.htm ^

Posted on 01/19/2005 12:03:53 PM PST by scottybk

For the first time in the nation, gun makers and dealers are now liable for injuries or deaths caused by the criminal use of their weapons, under a landmark law signed yesterday by Mayor Bloomberg.

The law — one of four bills signed regulating gun sales and possession — goes further than any other city's effort to hold the gun industry financially responsible for crimes involving their weapons.

"We need to do everything we can to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and out of the hands of children," said Bloomberg. "There's just no argument here. Guns kill people, it's time to get them off the street."

City lawmakers took more than two years to hammer out the legislation, continuing

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To: RJL

Just out of curiosity, wasn't all those previous anti-self defense/anti-firearm laws passed supposed to have made NYC a haven of peace and tranquility already?

/dripping sarcasm


41 posted on 01/19/2005 12:30:07 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save bucks and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: oceanview

"...multiple sales to one person..." Guess I missed that aspect of the RKBA.


42 posted on 01/19/2005 12:32:49 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: scottybk
If you read the article, the statements of the officials indicate that this is their way of removing guns from the street...ie..populace. Since they cant directly rescind the 2nd amendment, they do it indirectly, using the threat of lawsuits.

One remedy is probably for the gun manufacturers to impose a massive surcharge on every gun they sell in NYC...INCLUDING those sold to the city itself. Maybe 10 grand per gun.

This surcharge would be used to fund a massive liability insurance policy which the manufacturer would use to pay any settlements arising out of this legislation.
43 posted on 01/19/2005 12:33:04 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: from occupied ga

Bloomberg is a POS, but then he accurately reflects the values of most New Yorkers.
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ACtually, he doesn't. The haterd of Bloomberg among "common folks" is real, and mostly ignored by the far-left NYC media. Hang out in any bar, bowling alley, subway stop, etc., mention Bloomberg's name, and prepare yourself for a stream of obscenities.
The problem with this guy, besides his politics, is that he is a smug, arrogant, obnoxious micro-manager who bascially thinks that everyone besides himself is a moron. Another secret- he is gay. I have several freinds who work in NYC restaurants, and back before Bloomy was mayor he used to disappear into the wine cellar with some virile young men. Of course, unlike McGreevey, this guy has enough $$$ to make his loverboys keep quiet.


44 posted on 01/19/2005 12:33:59 PM PST by scottybk ("Pure democracy is 2 tigers and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch." Benj. Franklin)
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To: Dat Mon

Sounds like a plan.


45 posted on 01/19/2005 12:34:12 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save bucks and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Lazamataz

You would think he would have hung out with enough Republicans to know better.


46 posted on 01/19/2005 12:35:17 PM PST by AmishDude
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47 posted on 01/19/2005 12:36:21 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: oceanview
The article is a little vague. Its more than just holding dealers liable if they dont perform a backround check. What they are doing is enforcing regulations on dealers NATIONWIDE. Regardless of what the local laws are, they have to follow the NYC regulations or will be held liable!

From another Article

and Here

This holds every dealer liable in the country.

48 posted on 01/19/2005 12:36:50 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: chudogg

I can't see how they can enforce it, but then this is the city council of NYC, its like the soviet politburo, they can pass anything they want.


50 posted on 01/19/2005 12:40:18 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Javelina

Freddie Ferrer in this case. and yes, having lived in NYC under Dinkins, I would rather have Bloomberg then Ferrer.


51 posted on 01/19/2005 12:41:04 PM PST by oceanview
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To: scottybk

Nice work, Mayor Bloomberg - let's give the man a swastika armband to go with his new policy.


52 posted on 01/19/2005 12:42:37 PM PST by henderson field
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To: chudogg

"One measure, approved 43-2, would hold liable dealers nationwide who sell more than one gun to the same person within 30 days."

That seems IMHO to be clearly unconstitutional.

Bloomberg and the entire council who voted for this should be impeached.


53 posted on 01/19/2005 12:43:22 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: oceanview

They will be tried in NYC civil court. Which lately is anything goes regardless of laws, protections, legal precedent, or even signed contracts. Its all based on the whims of a judge.


54 posted on 01/19/2005 12:43:27 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: scottybk
ACtually, he doesn't

Then why did they vote for him? He represents the majority of the NYC VOTERS at any rate.

55 posted on 01/19/2005 12:44:24 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: scottybk

WHEN when when will gunmakers and ammunition makers and dealers stop all sales to jurisdictions like this one? Sorry police department, no guns for you, you're boss is trying to put us out of business. Better, they could announce a product recall of all the guns sold to the police departments. If a police officer refuses to surrender their weapon, and then later shoots anyone - even a criminal - with the recalled gun, the possibility of megabuck lawsuits against the police department and/or the city will then arise.


56 posted on 01/19/2005 12:45:41 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: chudogg
One measure, approved 43-2, would hold liable dealers nationwide who sell more than one gun to the same person within 30 days.

How the heck can the NY City Council hold liable dealers nationwide? There is no way this can stand up to review.

57 posted on 01/19/2005 12:46:35 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Dat Mon

Note to Republican party voters:

In the next republican primary...wherever and whenever it is...please be sure to ask your candidate where they stand in regards to this particular piece of legislation.

Take particular note for the 2008 presidential primary.


58 posted on 01/19/2005 12:46:43 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Javelina

Yeah. If I'm going to get torpedoed, I'd rather be torpedoed by an avowed enemy than a lying, two-faced, hypocritical skunk like Bloomberg. Bloomberg isn't even in the same class as a RINO. He is a Democrat who ran as a Republican in order to defeat someone in the Democratic Party.

Bloomberg is what he sounds like.


59 posted on 01/19/2005 12:46:54 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: chudogg
"Does NYC sell its used weapons like many other cities do?"

Issued duty weapons (currently the Glock 19, Sig Sauer P226 and S&W 5946 along with some old revolvers still floating around) become the property of the invidual officer. Backup guns are purchased privately by officers. I'm not sure about the ESU (SWAT) longarms. Guns that are taken as evidence are melted down after trial, tragically...

I've heard that some real beauties and vintage guns have met their fate this way. Sad, but not surprising, that the city won't take advantage of another possible revenue stream.

60 posted on 01/19/2005 12:47:04 PM PST by newwahoo
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