Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Of course it matters; if they asked her to shut her eyes and she didn't, they're selectively editing it.
LOL.....I don't approve of that either. I wonder if Todd is acting as a consultant on the jingo-isms. Reminds me of the Lott go 'rounds.
Thanks. I feel for her parents but after wading through all the information, I have come to the conclusion that they are kooks.
They simply cannot and have never been able to let go even prior to Terri's collapse. They sold their home in PA and moved to FL shortly after she and Michael moved there years before the accident. They are incapable of butting out.
Look at the statement of the mother yesterday (paraphrase) "Give me back my child."
Sure, but we're talking about people w/all their faculties.
Terri is not in that category..90% of her brain is not viable.
I know it looks like Terri is just disabled, but she's not disabled. She has a flat EEG. Some doctors have said it's the worst brain damage they've ever seen.tder oath she is PVS?
Her spontanteous eye movements and gutteral sounds are consistent with someone who has PVS.
I know that every day in this country people are removed from feeding tubes. Without Living Wills. These decisions have been made between families and their doctors for years.
Considering how much money doctors make keeping people alive on tubes and machines, I think it's unfortunate that people think there is a money component for doctors in this matter. I have not found it to be a valid concern.
We can now extend life, all life, for longer and longer periods of time. And for those who wish to be kept alive indefinitely on a feeding tube or other method, please make that clear to your families. Those of us who do not wish to be kept alive in such a manner have made that clear.
I know we don't agree on this matter, and that's okay. So let's just agree to disagree, Scarlet.
Nice dodge; the first rule when you can't defend your own statement is to try to cast doubt on the other person's.
Do you think Terri IS tracking the balloon? Because if she is tracking the balloon, then she's got cognitive abilities and all of the doctors have said she doesn't.
Do you live in Texas? I do. CNN et al are using Sun to discredit Bush. If you read the law concerning cases like Suns, you'll see what they are reporting is not true.
The fact that mom couldn't find a hospital to care for Sun had nothing to do with money.
Todd's got his own problems; they're making a run on the BB to get him off of it.
So her life depends on how many times she obeys the doctors commands? Remember, we're not arguing whether she's brain damaged or not. There are retarded persons all over this world who respond like her. Are you suggesting they are non persons?
Oh. I see.
If I don't promote anarchy and lawlessness, I must be a murderer.
I hear ya.
Exactly.
I live in Nevada.
That's what I understood; it's not the money, it's the viability, right?
Well .. something in her brain is working if she can do the things that are on record
Remember the manifesto of the coalition of the sane speaks to facts, not propaganda. Do you have a source reference for this? Just because you want it to be so doesn't make it true.
Are you deliberately twisting my words?
The fact of the video is not disgusting. Terri is not disgusting. Parents selling a video of their daughter as she lies in a bed with PVS and advertising the selling of the video is repugnant. To me. You obviously do not find it so. That's why this is America.
They are cherry-picking frames.
I ask you a plain question; you're equivocating.
And I remember you saying you've seen ADD kids that look just like her.
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