Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Stuck at the office...what is the jist of Catherine Crier's rant on Scarborough, Hannity, et al?
Thank you, Poobah
I had already seen it.
I may be wrong, but I think Rush and Mark Levin to name two, got involved to help promote the fact that we have a run away judiciary.
While I am sure like me, they felt a sadness and a certain passion for this situation, I think their prime reason for discussing this issue non stop for the past several weeks was to keep in the forefront why we need reign in the judges.
I think this case was used as an example, whether,right or wrong.
Could it hurt us in the long run? Maybe But it could also be the stepping stone for W to get the best judges on the SCOTUS, if he gets the chance.JMHO
I posted somewhere else....everyone needs some time to jump up and down and yell....
By next week we'll all be grousing about something else.
Good idea. Who wants to do this? We don't need 6 different ones started! :o)
I wonder if it is related to the lawsuit I read between FR and a lawyer that was doing all he could to disrupt FR and bring it down.
No no no...
I am the blood thirsty, wild eyed, foam-at-the-mouth savage.
Or something like that :-)
Seal clubbing threads seem to also get its fair share of hyperbole.
BTW: If you come to Norway ever, I'll treat to you to a whale burger. Great stuff, but you need to flush it down with some beers :-)
Cheers.
Succintly, put and on target, I'd say you do, but I'm not on the membership committee. To hell with the membership committee, welcome. LOL
Where they belong.
She pointed out to them how WRONG they are in their thinking on this case and their thinking of how the judges & courts have handled it.
Adamantly pointing out the judges & courts followed the law.
Joe S. said how badly he was being thrown all over tv by Crier.
It was fabulous viewing!
Crier got a large chuck of all those weasels.
I havn't been to Norway, and havn't visited Europe in quite some time...
I just may take you up on that offer LOL. I've had whale (visited friends at the Makah rez) and it's not bad... kinda greasy, to me, but yeah, definitely needs beers to wash it down LOL
I cannot help, but think that there might be some ammount of trolling stirring the pot.
At least one would hope so.
Cheers.
...Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
This has not been a good day for me or our country, not to mention "TS", but when I saw WPPFF I thought WWPPD (Ole Pol slaughtered his countrymen quickly and maybe more mercifully) and I had to follow the request of the poster.
People are quick to jump on this as a case of "Judicial Activism"... apparently the definition of which is "The judge didn't rul ein our favor, and he followed the law, damn him!" when the real culprit is the legislature that allowed this piece of crap law to be passed...
But, it's easier to get people riled up by saying "Out fo control judges!!!" because we conservatives really hat ethat kind of thing.
I think it was pulled as soon as the mod saw it. Posts where pouring in at the time.
Lemee see if my old Yahoo name is still active...
Though frankly, i think it ought to be you, LC or Peach to run it...
Unfortunately, that's not gonna happen now. The "Nuclear Option" is dead.
I am with you in trying to change the system! I assume that is your choice ;)
Please ping me if you would like to split a few more hairs. It has been a pleasure having an educated, calm, rational discussion about a very emotionally-charged topic.
She set the puffed up know it alls in their places...BIG TIME!
I don't agree w/Crier on a lot of things, but last night, I was cheering her on.
She wasn't about to let the likes of Joe, Pat, Sean & Sedlow bash the judges and Michael Schivao.
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