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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: Peach

Peach, once again you have missed my point completely. And once again you have misrepresented my words. Quite frankly it's hard for me to tell whether it's intentional on your part or merely due to poor comprehension skills.

Enjoy your time in the WPPFF, it appears to be just the right niche for you.


3,021 posted on 03/31/2005 11:20:39 AM PST by green pastures (I'm NOT in the wppff)
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To: the Deejay

Insulting me to prove your point....shows me that you have no point.

Sorry for intruding on the pity party thread. I'll retreat back to the wacky fringe fanatic section now.


3,022 posted on 03/31/2005 11:21:36 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Chad Fairbanks
well, don't get me ranting about "people" ;0)

"People" are just as bad as "they".

What will 'they' think?
'They' say....

3,023 posted on 03/31/2005 11:22:09 AM PST by retrokitten (I heart Tony Snow)
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To: Tarantulas
The courts have ruled on all the open questions years ago, accepting expert testimony and making their decisions.

That is all very well and good if you can accept 2 things.

One, that the state of Medical Arts has not advanced in 10 years.

Two, that it's ok for a couple of Judges to thumb their nose at the US Congress.

3,024 posted on 03/31/2005 11:22:50 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: retrokitten

Yup.


3,025 posted on 03/31/2005 11:22:52 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: malakhi
In my opinion, there is no state law that supersedes a duly authorized congressional action, or a clause in the United States Constitution.

I'm fully in support of "states rights", when the putatively state issue is being decided in a Constitutional manner.

However, I don't see how one state judge is able to contravene the direct orders of the U.S. Congress.

3,026 posted on 03/31/2005 11:24:14 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Kill For Peace.")
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To: malakhi

you keep repeating that but it isnt any truer now, than the first 20 times.


The fact is the US CONGRESS mandated a De Novo hearing in a Federal Court, and Greer, Whittemore, and the Other two judges basically said, "We dont feel like it so we aren't doing it"


3,027 posted on 03/31/2005 11:24:17 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Mo1
"Maybe I'm reading what you wrote, but are you saying that if someone produces the letter from the Nobel committee saying he isn't a nominee, and never was, that you wouldn't believe it because they are in on the Death Cult Conspiracy?"

******

For months on FR we been trying to get the judges nominate to be allowed to serve but we keep getting oposition from the left!

Some of the Supreme courts Judges are looking to international law instead of our orginal US Constitution!

I say original US Constitution for I think some how the left has alter our Constitution with double speak!

We hear a buzz words which have a universal meaning, I am saying Global Ethic/Bioethic has slip in their definition and when the bill is passed or a law some how we were duped!

The rules of engagement has been changed.....no one was told....and how did they get the authority to change our Constitution? Just listen more carefully, do look up things like Global Ethic/Bioethic, Humanist Manifesto there were many down the ages....

Secular humanism: What is it? ethical philosophy
Secular Humanism: Right for secular postmodern America?
... The Humanist Manifesto I completed in 1933 was signed by 34 influential people
including Anton J. ... President Clinton--exemplifies secular humanism

MANIFESTO FOR THE NEW MILLENNIUM

The International Academy of Humanism, a Specialist member of IHEU, has issued Humanist Manifesto 2000: A Call for a New Planetary Humanism. This is the second major document issued by the International Academy of Humanism, whose membership is made of distinguished philosophers, renowned intellectuals and Nobel prize winning scientists. Humanist Manifesto 2000 was drafted by Prof. Paul Kurtz, President of the Academy, and former co-President of IHEU.

3,028 posted on 03/31/2005 11:25:48 AM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: Asphalt

Thanks!


3,029 posted on 03/31/2005 11:26:06 AM PST by malakhi
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To: spectre
And all you guys can do is blame us. That's fine.

No one is "blaming" you of anything....... and blaming you for what? Where are you coming from?

God said "NO" to all your millions of prayers.

What prayers. You have NOT a clue!

So get your bad self off our thread, because you are disrupting it..Leave us in peace.

You are acting and writing like 'less than an intelligent' woman. You are bringing discredit to this site with your foolish and misdirected comments to me! I suggest that you grow up relatively soon!

3,030 posted on 03/31/2005 11:27:43 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: malakhi

there's actually a link on the FR home page


3,031 posted on 03/31/2005 11:27:52 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: .38sw; Asphalt
So I'm not the only one that's been doing that...

That's the great things about FR (and sometimes not so great)- there is usually at least one person who is of your same mind. That's why I love the live threads so much. It's like chatting with your buddies.

3,032 posted on 03/31/2005 11:27:55 AM PST by retrokitten (I heart Tony Snow)
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To: Poohbah
I'm pulling chocks tomorrow. Writing the opus thread now.

As someone who has disagreed with you on several issues in the past, especially this one, I must ask you to reconsider. Take a bit of a hiatus until the Schiavo thing blows over, but don't pack it in.

The worst thing that could happen to FR is for it to become an "echo chamber". Many of your opinions are in the minority around here, but you are usually able to convey them eloquently and stick to your guns regardless. Most of the other FR "devil's advocates" cannot say the same. Plus, I've always enjoyed reading your posts on military and foreign affairs issues.

Anyhow, I notice I'm not the first to ask you to stay. At least consider what we have to say. If not, best of luck in the future.

3,033 posted on 03/31/2005 11:28:08 AM PST by jmc813 (PLAYBOY ISN'T PORN;YES,PLAYBOY ID PORN ... ONLY PHOTOGRAPHED PORN IS PORN)
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To: Poohbah

I know some think caps are screaming which is not what I am doing I just don't want one to gloss by it!

People will say things what the court said, but never produce the link I do at least try to provide links!


3,034 posted on 03/31/2005 11:28:58 AM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: Jrabbit

Don't let the door hit ya in
the a$$.


3,035 posted on 03/31/2005 11:29:36 AM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: jmc813
As someone who has disagreed with you on several issues in the past, especially this one, I must ask you to reconsider.

You, good sir, are one of the prime reasons for my opus. Either folks like you go, or I go. I cannot abide your ilk's behavior. I have absorbed insults that, if made to my face at the Devil Dog Inn or Bill & Mary's, would've resulted in somebody leaving the place in a hearse--and Marines are not known for being eager to employ deadly force to resolve insults.

3,036 posted on 03/31/2005 11:31:22 AM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: spectre
Now, I am REALLY going to take a shower.

Yes that would be good. Clean off the dirt that you have been throwing around in large amounts to innocent posters like me!

3,037 posted on 03/31/2005 11:31:28 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Long Cut
California Law Allows Euthanasia
3,038 posted on 03/31/2005 11:33:53 AM PST by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: Long Cut

Well cat got your polite tongue......LOL!:)

3,039 posted on 03/31/2005 11:35:20 AM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: Poohbah
You, good sir, are one of the prime reasons for my opus. Either folks like you go, or I go. I cannot abide your ilk's behavior. I have absorbed insults that, if made to my face at the Devil Dog Inn or Bill & Mary's, would've resulted in somebody leaving the place in a hearse

I didn't realize that calling someone's argument style "eloquent" was considered an insult.

and Marines are not known for being eager to employ deadly force to resolve insults.

Marines are also not known for giving up on a mission because of temporary tensions. I'll ask you again. Take some time to cool off and come back. Overall, you're an asset to this forum.

3,040 posted on 03/31/2005 11:37:16 AM PST by jmc813 (PLAYBOY ISN'T PORN;YES,PLAYBOY ID PORN ... ONLY PHOTOGRAPHED PORN IS PORN)
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