Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
This has harmed the pro-life movement because some people kept pushing the envelope, I am afraid...
You're right about that. And I would never vote for a Democrat.
But if I see Congress and the president start to push for legislation which takes away our self determination, I just won't vote.
That would be interference beyond which I could not tolerate.
wow..... you're in a world of your own.
Okay!
Yes, I just stumbled across it.
Thanks.
Are they claiming there is a killing machine in this country?
OMG....ROTFLOL!!!!
Nutcase conspiracies running *wild*, lost control!
You're the judge. Tell it to yourself.
Reminds me of Soylent Green....
"LET THE FUN BEGIN"
I am so sorry but a young woman died today. Of starvation, while armed police were posted outside her prison to prevent humanitarian efforts at easing her pain.
Again, I ask - when should the fun begin?
sp
They should have covered all the bases in advance ... but frankly, if someone had been calling me a murderer for sometime, I would not be too well inclined toward them.
I'm confused on his refusing to let the family be there for her final breath....the Schindler priest said that he and her brother and sister were bedside with her 10 minutes before she passed....were only the mom and dad refused?..or did they just not get there in time?
Her parents weren't even at the hospice when she died from what I heard.
And that's all I have to say in answer to your question.
I have not been one to argue the case, per se.
I will add that I thought her brother's comments this afternoon were very inspirational and Christian.
Now I am done discussing this topic.
Don't even get me started on that.
Women my age are watching their daughters get married and get pregnant. They are looking at the new sonograms which show the unborn is NOT a blob. They are reading the new studies that when doctors make a loud noise near the mommy's tummy, the babies put their hands over their ears.
And women my age everywhere were softening their previous pro choice positions.
But now they've gotten an eyeful and an earful of Randall Terry and the face of the compassionate conservative certainly didn't look compassionate as pro life protestors hurled the Nazi word around at the police like so much confetti. And screamed murderer at the Schiavo family every day. And yelled into bullhorns day and night disturbing those poor people who had not lost their cognitive abilities and could hear but couldn't sleep for the noise or visit the gardens on their last days on earth.
I think this has set the pro life movement back 20 years and how many lives have been affected negatively as a result? It hardly bears contemplating because it's beyond sad. It's tragic.
good choice
It was the hospice workers (to check on her), and Michael's time to see Terri.
There was no reason for that tone. Cyn answered a question that had been asked. Period.
Please tell me these people aren't for real...
Calling someone a "murderer" on national television, then expecting them to be accommodating is fantasy.
And to think the other day i didn't even know who Randall Terry IS.
You are right.
He has made Pro-Life and Conservative people look like head-cases, and anything but compassionate.
I see that Jim Rob's words are now being wielded the "life-or-else-ers" as a sign that their position is officially endorsed by management.
what tone?
I am really beginning to wonder about the sanity of you folks!
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