Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Why be coy? Name names. I would love to know who this power mad mod is.
Nah, that'd be a pet mod that suspends or bans on command. I didn't know we had one of those.
Thanks for bothering to look and document just a few of her rantings. I just remember she swooped in on the original thread that ended up in the SBR calling people morons and evil and claiming they were bashing the military.
A more bizzare spectacle I've seldom seen.
Ha, we had the same question!
I don't think we do.
But remember, "facts" don't matter.
bizzare = bizarre
As for the other thing, that's just from the last week. I'm sure I could find more if I was interested enough to look deeper.
But it would be nice if we did have one. Maybe we can domesticate one, and keep it over here.
Oh good grief! Mark Twain said it best - "The reports of my death were highly exaggerated." FR is 50X more resilient any of the whiners can understand. And no, it won't won't fold because a few members, with overinflated views of their importance, write OPUS's and depart. THE BENCH IS WIDE AND DEEP!
For some reason, I'm reminded of:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
This is what you call a personal attack?
To: Long Cut
I'm familiar with your posting history because you frequent the same threads I frequent. You have made your position very clear. If you didn't want anyone to read your posts, you shouldn't have posted them. You lie about what natural death means. You advocate murdering Terri, while claiming that's perfectly natural. It isn't. Murder is wrong. Murder has always been wrong. Murder will always be wrong.
4,249 posted on 03/27/2005 8:18:31 PM EST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
How about "you ignorant POS"? Would you call that a personal attack?
I'm not talking about the ones who "opused," I'm talking about the ones who remain and continue with the Nazi allusions and rantings.
Those prepositions at the end of a sentence are so educational for FReepers.
Indeed, "a sad state of affairs".
;-)
Yeah, I'd say calling someone a liar is a personal attack. And accusing them of advocating murder, when I know for a fact that LC opposed the death of Terri Schiavo. I'd say those are personal attacks. What would you call them, hugs and kisses?
See, you missed a perfect chance to blame your own suspension on a rogue moderator with an agenda ;)
This, from the guy who is posting Hitler pics on another thread. Whatever, dude.
Notice the quotation marks to indicate that is a quote, in other words an example of the personal attacks you'd like to pretend were never made. That is not me calling you names. That is one of your buddies calling me names for objecting to insults being made about a photo of a soldier whose identity none of them knew. All they knew about the man they were insulting was that he was a soldier. That was all the provocation they had.
Just pointing out the facts.
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