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DeLay Apologizes for Schiavo Case Rhetoric
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| April 13, 2005
| Terence Hunt
Posted on 04/13/2005 8:21:32 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Graymatter
To: cyncooper
I received a call from the RNC on Wednesday for a donation. I told them that although I still consider myself a Republican, I wasn't in any mood to be sending them any money. President Bush and the Senate have started off 2005 in a very disappointing fashion. I guess there is always hope, but I don't see things getting any better over the next 2--4 years.
To: cyncooper; All
And on the day of Terri's death (which occurred early in the morning,) I noticed and made note on the board late that evening of the very odd DERTH of offers on Free Republic, among the WPPFF leaders and members, of prayers for Terri's family [or friends] on her passing. Or
even, for that matter, offers for Terri to
rest in peace, which would be so very basic and effortless and decent.
The above was the case though, despite many of the leaders' and members' continued posting throughout the day on the Terri, and Terri's passing, threads, as well as continued posting elsewhere on the board. I did notice one of the WPPFF members, who is a friend of mine, who posted "God rest her soul," after I made note on the board of my observation on the odd DERTH of offers to Terri from the WPPFF.
The WPPFF signed their official Manifesto with this:
"The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane."
The bolding of the word *Sane* is mine, and is to call attention to the signing of their official Manifesto with the use of that word...and that word being their last stated word (and, as I mentioned, in signature.)
I will leave it to all on Free Republic (and also those who lurk,) to determine the intent and implication of distinction of the used term, and the grouping and capitalizing of the stated, official designation and signation "Coalition of the Sane".
None of this sits well with me and many.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:35:48 PM PDT
by
Miss Behave
(Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
To: Trinity_Tx
Where did you get all your notes from? Felos?
You know as well as I do that any professional can be paid to testify to any belief in court.
They make a living doing this. They make far more money than actually seeing patients, plus they don't have to pay their liability premiums.
In many cases doctors tend to favor the guardians wishes. Unfortunately, it was a wrong choice this time. I believe we will learn more about this case as time goes by.
For me I'm sticking with the family on this one. Too many conflicts of interest. Even you must see that.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:35:54 PM PDT
by
lula
(Starving the disabled is OK, go to jail if you do the same to an animal...go figure)
To: cyncooper
Wow even DeLay backs off.
Guess all of those polls aren't just BS, eh? The Prez and his boys sure are running away as fast as they can from all the fanatics that wanted armed rebellion and Jeb's head on a pike in Florida.
Too bad, so sad.... :)
To: Cold Heat
Would you please post the transcript of this guardianship hearing you claim took place?
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:39:54 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
To: Central Scrutiniser
I could call you a liar for saying you were going to bed an hour before the post I'm replying to. Why are you hanging around at this hour trying to get someone to call you a Nazi?
I wrote, "like a good German." If you understand English, no explanation is necessary. You know what "like" means. You know what is meant by a "good German." If you don't, I'll help you out, but I think you do, I think you're just being argumentative and looking for some attention.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:41:39 PM PDT
by
Graymatter
(a Terri Schiavo Republican)
To: lula
"Where did you get all your notes from? Felos?"
LOL Cute. No... And if you read my words, you'd know that insult was unjustified.
I'll tell you what you told the other poster: "If you were to have followed this case you would know"
Yes - Hammesfahr and Maxwell were both paid to testify that she wasn't PVS. Only a few out of the many, including ~7 neurologists, who diagnosed her as PVS going back to 1990, were also paid for.
You may find Hammesfahr and Maxwell credible, or dispute what I said about credibility counting - those are my opinions.
But you posted *factually false* information. I corrected it. If you think you can dispute it, go for it.
But don't call me Felos simply for correcting what is indisputably false information. I hold my tongue much too much to deserve it.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:47:17 PM PDT
by
Trinity_Tx
(9/9/2000) I'd rather be uncertain in my pursuit of truth than certain in my defense of a falsehood)
To: Central Scrutiniser
The condescension in your post is very amusing. Now be careful with your grammar and rethink some of that punctuation. And don't forget to brush your teeth before you go to bed.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:47:31 PM PDT
by
Graymatter
(a Terri Schiavo Republican)
To: All; Republic
One more thing that was brought up earlier (which I believe is something to
really think about,) by poster Republic:
"It is against the laws of the hospice foundation to hasten death or accept non terminally ill patients.
Terri was neither...but she survived in that house of death for almost FIVE YEARS."
This is my two cents:
Five years of HELL.
*Husband* ordered NO light (shades down at all times,) NO music or TV, No basic dental/oral hygiene care (resulting in the pulling and FALLING OUT of her TEETH,) NO doctor ordered/highly recommended antibiotics (*husband* over-rode doctor's orders,) No BASIC circulatory, occupational, speech, or swallow therapy, NO flowers, and NO outdoor experience. FOR YEARS. NOTHING. NOTHING.
And is it common knowledge that lack of adequate dental/oral care/hygiene is a HUGE invite to a whole HOST of INFECTIONS.
*Husband* ordered BOTH no oral care AND no needed/recommended antibiotics for infections that Terri had.
It all sickens me.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:48:23 PM PDT
by
Miss Behave
(Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
To: Trinity_Tx
I don't know what her actual state was, Her state based on the videos was someone definitely aware of their surroundings. I did not see a vegetable or a brain dead individual but even if she was in that state I couldn't pull the plug since it wasn't about terminal illness.
To: STARWISE
"Delay Ping."
Looks like another wimp-out is in the works. Wonder who got to him about activist judges?
To: All
And Terri's teeth fell out and were pulled.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:51:17 PM PDT
by
Miss Behave
(Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
To: Cold Heat
Greer adjudicated this case more than properly. He followed the law in this case to the smallest detail. Anything to the contrary is just a false accusation and not worthy of further argument.
That's bllsht. If Greer had an ounce of compassion he could have removed scumbag M Schiavo off his guardianship of Terri along with scumbag lawyer Felos. And that would have been within the law. Scumbag Greer was an enabler of the Clearwater death cult.
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posted on
04/13/2005 11:53:16 PM PDT
by
dennisw
("Sursum corda")
To: BykrBayb
To: k2blader
"I still think most of the pro-death crowd is operating from a decidedly anti-Christian viewpoint."
100% correlation so far.
Comment #237 Removed by Moderator
To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
"Simply put, why do people scream bloody murder about being called Nazis when they advocate doing what the Nazis advocated and did."
Because they're embarrassed when the get caught thinking like Nazis, and when it's proved that they are thinking like Nazis.
To: Trinity_Tx
239
posted on
04/14/2005 12:04:14 AM PDT
by
lula
(Starving the disabled is OK, go to jail if you do the same to an animal...go figure)
To: k2blader
I still think most of the pro-death crowd is operating from a decidedly anti-Christian viewpoint.Most are atheists. In the case of George Felos a full blown New Age kook.
I once discussed death with an atheist who was ethical and honest. He had morals. So I asked him what happens when *you* die? He said "I get lowered 6 feet into a cold dark grave and that's it."
What a cold cold way to look at life and death.
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posted on
04/14/2005 12:04:52 AM PDT
by
dennisw
("Sursum corda")
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