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1 posted on 04/21/2005 9:20:46 PM PDT by Coleus
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He's right. With free trade, all the trading partners and their people will prosper.


2 posted on 04/21/2005 9:23:09 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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"Some call them 'illegals.' But according to the market model, they are better described as entrepreneurs without assets, pursuing the American dream," said Bishop Alvaro Ramazzini Imeri of San Marcos, Guatemala.

It doesn't matter what you call them. They are still here illegally. Why not have a "Guatemalan Dream"? We will share our ideas about liberty, individual responsibility and free enterprise with you, gratis.

3 posted on 04/21/2005 9:30:49 PM PDT by knuthom
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"Some call them 'illegals.' But according to the market model, they are better described as entrepreneurs without assets, pursuing the American dream," said Bishop Alvaro Ramazzini Imeri of San Marcos, Guatemala.

When the good Bishop starts ex-communicating the drug lords and goons who run most of Guatemala, and publicly speaking out against a corrupt Guatemalan govt, then maybe I will cut him some slack.

4 posted on 04/21/2005 9:31:38 PM PDT by ikka
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5 posted on 04/21/2005 9:34:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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Being able to walk into any hospital and get free treatment without paying the bill sounds like freeloading to me.


6 posted on 04/21/2005 9:35:52 PM PDT by grizzly84
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To: farmfriend


7 posted on 04/21/2005 9:36:11 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our New Pope, Benedict XVI)
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"Illegal immigrants "are not free-loaders" but hard-working people who are seeking better lives for their families because social and economic improvements are not readily available to the Latin American poor, said a Guatemalan bishop."

Be that as it may it does not give them the right to be here illegally. It is called "The American Dream" for a reason. Americans hold the keys that access that dream. If, as the most fortunate of the world's inheritors, we decide not to fling wide open the doors to anyone who can get a foot on our soil then that is our choice, and our choice alone. If you are here illegally then you are stealing our birthright. A birthright purchased with the blood, sweat, and tears of our ancestors. Illegal invaders have NO right whatsoever to steal that birthright from any American. If they want to come to America then let them abide by the rules that have been set worth. In doing so America will give them their own key or at least an opportunity to earn one.
8 posted on 04/21/2005 9:37:00 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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As opposed to the True Kornservatives who are wailing about the supposed infringement of their Socialist entitlements.
10 posted on 04/21/2005 9:38:29 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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Preemptively; I believe that US companies that employ illegal aliens are guilty of the same.
12 posted on 04/21/2005 9:43:43 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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"This is not happening in Central America and it will not happen as long as hundreds of thousands of workers are suppressed, not empowered, at the workplace," he said.

So? Make it happen! Make YOUR country as good as we've made ours!

14 posted on 04/21/2005 9:44:08 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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"Some call them 'illegals.' But according to the market model, they are better described as entrepreneurs without assets, pursuing the American dream," said Bishop Alvaro Ramazzini Imeri of San Marcos, Guatemala. "

Lets call them what they really are....CRIMINALS and anyone that supports this type of criminal activity is a criminal also.


18 posted on 04/21/2005 10:30:50 PM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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Well, then, Bishop, explain why 27% of the Federal prisoners in the US are illegal aliens.

Explain why some of those illegals are bringing in third-world diseases.

Explain why some of those illegals are criminals in their own countries. Some are murders, some drug dealers, some human traffickers (a.k.a., white or human slavery).

If all these ills are only 10%, Bishop, that is still thousands.
19 posted on 04/21/2005 10:32:01 PM PDT by TomGuy
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I am a Catholic, but listening to bishops on trade policy is like listening to a Mexican explain the fine points of ice hockey.


30 posted on 04/22/2005 4:13:08 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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What's wrong with their countries and why don't these "hard working" people fix them?


32 posted on 04/22/2005 4:40:41 AM PDT by junta ("Racism" a word invented so as to allow morons access to the political debate.)
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Alvaro, if you like them so much you have them, bring them into your home. Build a free hospital and put out the word to come live with you. Don't spend other peoples money, spend your own.


34 posted on 04/22/2005 5:28:48 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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Illegals themselves put in more than they take out. However, it is their children that are costing the taxpayers.


35 posted on 04/22/2005 5:35:13 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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Ya know, once upon time, an empire faced tremendous illegal immigration by folks seeking a better life. The illegal immigrants brought lands under cultivation that the empire's citizens wouldn't cultivate and did work they wouldn't.

That empire was Rome and those "immigrants" were Teutons, Vandals, Goths, Visigoths, etc.; i.e. 'barbarians." And they ended up destroying Rome.

Wake up! Close the freakin' gates and toss the barbarians OUT!


42 posted on 04/22/2005 6:06:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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This article is very suspect: All I know is the Catholic Churches in my area are some of the worst offenders bringing in illegals for the tax payers to support. They flout it by having pictures on the front page of the local paper showing little Mexicans singing in the kiddie choir displacing little citizens. They brag about directing Grandmas and mamas to- be to our local hospital for free medical care. Also they are guilty of giving illegals identification cards, hoping they can eventually vote.

Also our rust belt state has sent money here for years to have free Hispanic health care fairs.

Most of the world is foaming at the mouth to be able to come to America and steal from the taxpayers. Americans are hated above all other nations because we have made living wages for many years. Because of that, we are sitting ducks here in America, and we have a president who doesn't care about the citizens, or the future of America.

56 posted on 04/22/2005 7:37:56 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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this biship/priest character is just another liberal in disguise...

the term that should be applied to these deadbeats is criminal!

66 posted on 04/22/2005 8:20:59 AM PDT by NoClones
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Blah, blah, blah, AND blah...
The 'Bishop' ought to remember that he represents the Kingdom of God and not the world. As such a representative he should emphasize to his flock that:

God hates a liar.
It is wrong to deceive.
There is no dishonor in being poor.
And, unless it is contrary to the laws of God, we are to follow the laws of the civil government.

It sounds like this 'Bishop' did his seminary work studying the art of social relativism and Karl Marx rather than eternal truths of the Bible...

86 posted on 04/22/2005 12:17:54 PM PDT by El Cid
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