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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

Mirecki hospitalized after beating

By Ron Knox, Eric Weslander (Contact)

Originally published 05:37 p.m., December 5, 2005 Updated 06:31 p.m., December 5, 2005

Douglas County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the reported beating of a Kansas University professor who gained recent notoriety for his Internet tirades against Christian fundamentalists.

Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki reported he was beaten by two men about 6:40 a.m. today on a roadside in rural Douglas County. In a series of interviews late this afternoon, Mirecki said the men who beat him were making references to the controversy that has propelled him into the headlines in recent weeks. Mirecki

Mirecki

“I didn’t know them, but I’m sure they knew me,” he said.

Mirecki said he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

“I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind,” he said. “They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.”

He said the men beat him about the upper body with their fists, and he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object. He was treated and released at Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

“I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots,” he said.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Officials are classifying the case as an aggravated battery. They wouldn’t say exactly where the incident happened, citing the ongoing investigation

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 843-TIPS or the sheriff’s office at 841-0007.

Mirecki recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists.

The remarks caused an uproar, Mirecki apologized, and KU announced last week the class would be canceled.


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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

It's not smart to play with blasphemy--


401 posted on 12/06/2005 11:22:18 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

"It's not smart to play with blasphemy--"

OK, so tell the "Christians" who are trying to wink at this behavior to stop blaspheming.


402 posted on 12/06/2005 11:31:46 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Bush and Cheney I tell you. They were tooling around in a pickup looking to roll some atheists.

Bush: "Hey Cheney. There's that major league a-hole from the Religious Studies Department at KU."

Cheney: "Yeah, Big Time."

Bush: "Let's mess'im up."

403 posted on 12/06/2005 11:32:59 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Well, you can't claim that nobody tried to help you.


404 posted on 12/06/2005 11:33:09 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

You left out John Ashcroft--


405 posted on 12/06/2005 11:34:31 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Will_Zurmacht

If this is anything like the usual leftist "attack", he probably fell down the stairs at home and decided to make up a "hate crime" to go along with his bruises.


406 posted on 12/06/2005 11:35:10 AM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles every time a Freeper trashes Rick Santorum)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Oh, come on. Why is everyone being so grave and reserved? Doesn't anyone see the irony in this smart@$$ getting a "nice slap in [his] big fat face"?


407 posted on 12/06/2005 11:36:27 AM PST by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: Mamzelle

"Well, you can't claim that nobody tried to help you."

Gosh, you don't get upset at your co-religionists who endorse this sort of behavior, you just get upset at me.

I guess Christianity is, at its heart, as much a religion of peace as that other religion of peace we keep hearing about...and, like that other religion, they don't like being reminded of that fact.


408 posted on 12/06/2005 11:37:47 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Right Wing Professor

Damn. Never even got a chance to read his posts. Well, he's going up on the wall tonight.


409 posted on 12/06/2005 11:42:05 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: wyattearp
I don't believe that for one second.

Fine. But you have yet to point out any case where I've advocated violence against bubble-headed ideologues. Don't you prefer to have evidence to support your delusion?

410 posted on 12/06/2005 11:42:54 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Right Wing Professor; RadioAstronomer
Even the Discovery Institute is alert enough to deal correctly with this issue: Violence Is Never The Answer In Intellectual Debate.
411 posted on 12/06/2005 11:42:55 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: furball4paws; PatrickHenry; Doctor Stochastic; b_sharp; Right Wing Professor; longshadow
I'm gone for another thread.

Count me in as well. Poof!

(Bet DU is gleefully reading this thread)

412 posted on 12/06/2005 11:43:33 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Tim Long

So you advocate physical violence against those with whom you disagree?


413 posted on 12/06/2005 11:43:54 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Out of the mouth of babes . . .


414 posted on 12/06/2005 11:45:28 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Spare me the sanctimonious drama nonsense Pale, read my first post carefully.

This punk HIRED someone to pound him. Got it? That is my take on his suspiciously timed "attack". 15 minutes of fame for this burning out story.

Similar to the fraud professor at Claremont College who slashed her tires and sprayed epithets on her car for sympathy two years ago. Hand wringing leftists fawned over this creature for weeks until the truth was made known.

Cool Revelations screen name though.


415 posted on 12/06/2005 11:46:54 AM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Note how they rejoice with DU--the chief agenda of the evos is chipping away at GOP alliances and working for the defeat of conservatives.


416 posted on 12/06/2005 11:48:33 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: jaguaretype

Now, you know this for a fact? Mirecki hired someone to do this?

Only two people would know--Mirecki and the person he hired.

How much did he pay you?


417 posted on 12/06/2005 11:48:42 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Mamzelle

I hear Wal-Mart has a special on red baseball hats and wool gloves. Time to stock up!


418 posted on 12/06/2005 11:48:54 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

There is a great 2 minute SNL type of skit in there somewhere.
There needs to be a conservative version of Saturday Night Live with skits like that. Ann Coulter as the 1st guest.


419 posted on 12/06/2005 11:49:36 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Maybe it was a couple of angels wrestling with him, the way an angel wrestled with Jacob?


420 posted on 12/06/2005 11:49:46 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Just mythoughts

" . . . Now I see no purpose to be gained by beating him up."

I fully agree.

My suspects:

1. The professor himself faked the attack, as has been shown time and again or

2. The kind of "christian" who blows up abortion clincs, who do exist, alas (which was my point -- not common, but existant).


422 posted on 12/06/2005 11:50:41 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: PatrickHenry
Reminds me of what the libs said during the Watergate days -- it's like turning over a flat rock and seeing the little wriggling things that are exposed.

The hypocrisy of your comment is equivalent to Ted Kennedy railing against drunken driving. The stench from your Christian bashing threads can be smelt several websites away.

423 posted on 12/06/2005 11:51:11 AM PST by Hacksaw (Monomania is treatable.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Who Would Jesus Mug?

/sarc


424 posted on 12/06/2005 11:52:10 AM PST by Sally Golightly
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To: Rudder
The unabashed hatred and bigotry displayed here today is absolutely appalling.

Yeah, it's hard to understand why people aren't more sympathetic to a guy who has complete contempt for them.

425 posted on 12/06/2005 11:52:34 AM PST by Hacksaw (Monomania is treatable.)
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To: RadioAstronomer; furball4paws; PatrickHenry; Doctor Stochastic; b_sharp; Right Wing Professor; ...
I've compiled a summary of some noteworthy posts in this thread. In thinking it over, those that merely express skepticism aren't wrong -- just those that express both skepticism and approval in case the beating really happened as reported.

Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?
3 posted on 12/05/2005 11:15:16 PM EST by Emmett McCarthy

No bet.
4 posted on 12/05/2005 11:16:23 PM EST by BibChr

What is the name that comes to mind ... Tawana? Something like that.
5 posted on 12/05/2005 11:16:39 PM EST by ladyjane

No bet. Leftists ALWAYS try to smear their detractors.
7 posted on 12/05/2005 11:16:52 PM EST by clee1

No dice, a standard lefty trick for sympathy.
15 posted on 12/05/2005 11:19:59 PM EST by Navy Patriot

I'll bet a dollar to a donut that his homo lover smacked him around.
17 posted on 12/05/2005 11:20:21 PM EST by ExpatGator

Just one leftist professor looking to make himself look like the victim.
25 posted on 12/05/2005 11:21:17 PM EST by IrishCatholic

In the movie "Dirty Harry", a perp hired someone to beat him up.
28 posted on 12/05/2005 11:23:10 PM EST by BipolarBob

I hope they catch those two incompetent rednecks for not even doing a simple assault properly!
36 posted on 12/05/2005 11:25:27 PM EST by Publius6961

I'm holding out for "no truck, no rednecks," just a liberal out trolling for some cheap victim-love.
40 posted on 12/05/2005 11:28:15 PM EST by JCEccles

A "red badge of courage" moment for another feckless leftwing geek.
42 posted on 12/05/2005 11:29:49 PM EST by hinckley buzzard

He probably picked them up in a bar.
66 posted on 12/05/2005 11:39:52 PM EST by Dr. Eckleburg

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.
74 posted on 12/05/2005 11:44:49 PM EST by sport

Obvious fake. I hope they throw the book at this guy for making this sh*t up.
78 posted on 12/05/2005 11:46:41 PM EST by ozzymandus

I wonder how much it cost to get a couple liberal students to slap him around so he's got a story to tell.
79 posted on 12/05/2005 11:47:13 PM EST by RavenATB

How convenient. The libs will go all Matthew Shepherd.
81 posted on 12/05/2005 11:48:39 PM EST by tallhappy

I smell a set up.
82 posted on 12/05/2005 11:49:12 PM EST by Tench_Coxe

HA...bruises and sores are probably caused by pestilence and crack/aids. Look at that filth
84 posted on 12/05/2005 11:50:55 PM EST by kajingawd

Sounds self-inflicted.
101 posted on 12/06/2005 12:18:05 AM EST by mmadi106999

Hopefully this turd is outed as a fraud and his "paid for beat down" leaves some indelible marks anyway. LOL!!
117 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:30 AM EST by jaguaretype

What I'm saying is, I think this professor Mirecki beat himself up.
127 posted on 12/06/2005 1:04:01 AM EST by Lancey Howard

This butthole was lucky that it was a lite ruffing up.
146 posted on 12/06/2005 2:47:15 AM EST by LK44-40

Not only does it sound 'strange'.......but the guy is totally lying. No doubt in my mind.
151 posted on 12/06/2005 5:59:58 AM EST by RightOnline

Cause and effect. "Nature" takes it's course.
176 posted on 12/06/2005 8:09:40 AM EST by Fester Chugabrew

The guy is a kook! From his ranting, it sounds like he wanted it to happen and is just too glad to ham it up for the media.
260 posted on 12/06/2005 10:27:05 AM EST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Too bad they didn't break his knees.
266 posted on 12/06/2005 10:36:32 AM EST by Muzzle_em

Whatever Mirecki got wasn't bad enough.
302 posted on 12/06/2005 11:27:24 AM EST by kimosabe31

Doesn't anyone see the irony in this smart@$$ getting a "nice slap in [his] big fat face"?
407 posted on 12/06/2005 2:36:27 PM EST by Tim Long

426 posted on 12/06/2005 11:52:46 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

I'll take a 100 on phony


427 posted on 12/06/2005 11:52:54 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Mamzelle

The morally superior grant themselves a hasty exit after stinking up the place with self-righteous indignation. From the standpoint of matter in motion it isn't as though they have a leg to stand on in the first place. Talk about hollow indictments!


428 posted on 12/06/2005 11:53:11 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: churchillbuff

Yes, praise JAY-SUS, God sent his own angels down to beat up a godless heathen!

Yes, sir, you'd better walk the straight-and-narrow, theologically speaking, or the new, improved RoboGod will make you pay right here, right now, Amen, HALLELUJAH!

Maybe He can branch out into protection rackets.


429 posted on 12/06/2005 11:53:38 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Sally Golightly

Moneychangers at the temple?


430 posted on 12/06/2005 11:54:46 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Junior

He may already be...the way he wrote indicated he has been here before.


431 posted on 12/06/2005 11:54:46 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Junior

No, but I can appreciate irony.


432 posted on 12/06/2005 11:55:03 AM PST by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

One of 2 things happened here

A. He was beaten up by someone who had another agenda with him but used this as an excuse or attempt to steer guilt away from themselves

or

B. He got someone to beat him up so he could use this as a PR ploy.

My beg is, it's the latter.


433 posted on 12/06/2005 11:55:04 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Right Wing Professor
"It's indeed possible this is a hoax. But if it isn't, I'm compiling responses like this one from our resident 'Christians'"

What for? Just in case its not a hoax and you can do some good old fundamentalist Christian bashing yourself?

434 posted on 12/06/2005 11:55:30 AM PST by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, Bama...Banana Rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: PatrickHenry

Yup, the all-new First FReeper Church.

"Every knee shall bow, especially after we send Vinnie and Rocko out to break the heathen ones!"


435 posted on 12/06/2005 11:56:32 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
Bush: Let's mess'im up.

ROFLMAO

436 posted on 12/06/2005 11:56:48 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?

Sucker bet..

437 posted on 12/06/2005 11:56:51 AM PST by cardinal4 ("One man gone and another to go....")
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I'm going to reprint part of my last post and capitalize some relevant wording for you since you AGAIN missed what I wrote.

That is MY TAKE on his suspiciously timed "attack".

My = mine....belongs to me.
Take = in the vernacular means belief or position.


"How much did he pay you?" ???????

LOL!!!!! keep up the sanctimonious little tool-type lecturing Pale.

We'll likely cross again.


438 posted on 12/06/2005 11:57:12 AM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
what a laugh.

a fat, out of shape guy who has probably never been in a real fight in his life because he always played dolls with the girls, has the nards to get OUT of his car on a deserted road to face two strangers in a TRUCK, men in wool gloves yet, who were tailgating him.... they beat him up, he says, BUT not bad enough to be hospitalized....I say he is a liar or they weren't trying hard enough...
439 posted on 12/06/2005 11:57:14 AM PST by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: PatrickHenry

Funny; my blog post is almost done, and I have about 90% overlap...


440 posted on 12/06/2005 11:58:00 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: jaguaretype

"That is MY TAKE on his suspiciously timed "attack". "

You indicated that, if your take is wrong, you'd still insist that it was fact.


441 posted on 12/06/2005 11:58:49 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: johnnyb_61820
Oh my goodness! You found a blogger who was less than credible.

Did you even follow the link? I referenced three "Christian" creationist FReepers, not bloggers.

The story as reported sounds quite suspicious to me, but "no Christian would do such a thing!" is not amongst the list of reasons to doubt it.
442 posted on 12/06/2005 11:59:19 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Concentrate, Pale.

On every word.
LOL!!!


443 posted on 12/06/2005 11:59:19 AM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: wyattearp; Right Wing Professor
Well, we know that they allied themselves with Muslims in Kansas. It appears as if they may be joining the "religion of peace".

BTW, people who ally themselves with the communist ACLU in Kansas, Dover Pa, Georgia, etc and cheer the elections of democrat school boards shouldn't be making guilt by association arguments. But I have noticed hypocrisy is not a deterrent to most of the evo fundamentalists here.

444 posted on 12/06/2005 12:00:59 PM PST by Hacksaw (The liberal wants to control what you do, the atheist wants to control what you think.)
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To: metmom
No REAL Christians would do that.

I hear bagpipes!
445 posted on 12/06/2005 12:01:21 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I'll let you take over from here. It's an unpleasant task.

I must add, however, that if this already indiscreet guy somehow did fake the encounter -- which I doubt -- he's thoroughly discredited.

446 posted on 12/06/2005 12:04:05 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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bookmark


447 posted on 12/06/2005 12:05:17 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

####Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?####


It could certainly be phony. There's plenty of precedent for it among lefties such as Mirecki. However, to be fair, it could also be legitimate. Mirecki may be a hypocrite and a kook, but that shouldn't merit a beating.


448 posted on 12/06/2005 12:07:01 PM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: MeanWestTexan

If this happened, I see no grounds to equate their actions with those of the Prince of Peace.


449 posted on 12/06/2005 12:09:12 PM PST by Sally Golightly
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To: Sally Golightly

"If this happened, I see no grounds to equate their actions with those of the Prince of Peace."

Come on, this is the First Church of Free Republic! The new creed: "Every knee shall bow, even if we have to break 'em ourselves..."


450 posted on 12/06/2005 12:10:22 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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