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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

Mirecki hospitalized after beating

By Ron Knox, Eric Weslander (Contact)

Originally published 05:37 p.m., December 5, 2005 Updated 06:31 p.m., December 5, 2005

Douglas County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the reported beating of a Kansas University professor who gained recent notoriety for his Internet tirades against Christian fundamentalists.

Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki reported he was beaten by two men about 6:40 a.m. today on a roadside in rural Douglas County. In a series of interviews late this afternoon, Mirecki said the men who beat him were making references to the controversy that has propelled him into the headlines in recent weeks. Mirecki

Mirecki

“I didn’t know them, but I’m sure they knew me,” he said.

Mirecki said he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

“I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind,” he said. “They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.”

He said the men beat him about the upper body with their fists, and he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object. He was treated and released at Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

“I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots,” he said.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Officials are classifying the case as an aggravated battery. They wouldn’t say exactly where the incident happened, citing the ongoing investigation

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 843-TIPS or the sheriff’s office at 841-0007.

Mirecki recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists.

The remarks caused an uproar, Mirecki apologized, and KU announced last week the class would be canceled.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: ameritaliban; cawcaw; crevolist; fakehatecrimes; falsechristian; idgoons; ku; legbreakersforchrist; mirecki; paulmirecki; religionofpeace; talibornagain; unsaved
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To: Will_Zurmacht

If he were truly beat up by two grown men and a metal object, he'd have much more severe injuries than just some bruises and sore spots.


51 posted on 12/05/2005 8:33:28 PM PST by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield "he should have stayed home and beat himself".


52 posted on 12/05/2005 8:33:38 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

"What's the frequency Mirecki?"


53 posted on 12/05/2005 8:33:47 PM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: AD from SpringBay; Emmett McCarthy; IrishCatholic

The local media is running with this story....its getting big time play.


54 posted on 12/05/2005 8:34:14 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

He shouldn't beat himself up about all this.


55 posted on 12/05/2005 8:34:19 PM PST by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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To: Sue Bob
There is no real confirmation of injuries in this piece.

And, "treated and released" is a far cry from "hospitalized after beating." This one definitely flunks the smell test.

56 posted on 12/05/2005 8:34:20 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Will_Zurmacht

That isn't far from the Rev. Phelps goofball cult.

Though it also sound quite similar to the supposed attacks on gays (when hate crime bills were being considered by legislatures) that later turn out to be self-inflicted or set-up stunts.


57 posted on 12/05/2005 8:34:29 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: RavenATB

on campus it was all the buzz, so i checked the paper. basic story. on the tv news they handled it with kid gloves, which makes me a little suspicious.

what gets me is that the usual suspects here (unemployed campus libs) had all the info this afternoon and were ready to declare a jihad on Christians.

Oh, well. Still, it is odd that the head of the religious studies dept @ KU is an an avowed atheist who hates Catholics and "Fundy morons".

here's a pdf of some of his friendlier comments to students.
http://media.ljworld.com/pdf/2005/12/02/mireckiemail.pdf


58 posted on 12/05/2005 8:35:04 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I haven't seen you in ages! Good to see you...


59 posted on 12/05/2005 8:35:15 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Merry Christmas!")
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To: oldbrowser

ROFLLLLLLLL!!!


60 posted on 12/05/2005 8:35:45 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
...he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object.

A REAL assault in which you can't be really sure that you have
(or have not) been struck with a metal object is a stange thing.

Unless Mirecki was struck unconscious early on in the assault.

the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40,
one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans.
They were last seen in a large pickup truck.


Well then, the Crime Scene Investigation group should be able
to get some wool fibers and other fiber/hair evidence from the crime
scene or from the person of Prof. Mirecki.

This should be an interesting incident to follow.

I'd say this sounds more like a hit ordered by a cabal of his fellow
faculty members in The Department of Religion at KU...
for having outed them as all being atheists or agnostics.
61 posted on 12/05/2005 8:36:27 PM PST by VOA
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To: CindyDawg
Did the pickup truck have a Confederate Flag on it?


62 posted on 12/05/2005 8:38:10 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
Still, it is odd that the head of the religious studies dept @ KU
is an an avowed atheist who hates Catholics and "Fundy morons".


Heck, he could be a faculty member at some of the more liberal seminaries.
63 posted on 12/05/2005 8:38:10 PM PST by VOA
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To: Will_Zurmacht
All I can picture is this guy pretending to be that crazy lady from the show Trading Spouses with one small difference:

"They WERE CHRISTIANS!"

This guy sounds like a phony. Wasn't there some lady recently that accussed some phantom Nazis of attacking her or her car? Turned out that she made the thing up.

Look, these liberals are crazy. And, I do mean mentally disabled. Anyone that can actually think through things and still come to the opinions that they do are obviously mentally deranged.

So, beating themselves up or having some CodePinkos beat them up certainly is in the realm of what these kooks consider "rational".

Anyway...

64 posted on 12/05/2005 8:39:15 PM PST by mattdono ("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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To: ExpatGator

I'll bet you he smacked himself around, wounds won't be consistent with an attack as described to law enforcement.


65 posted on 12/05/2005 8:39:39 PM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

He probably picked them up in a bar.


66 posted on 12/05/2005 8:39:52 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("How soon not now becomes never." - Martin Luther)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Just another hate crime that won't be prosecuted as such.


67 posted on 12/05/2005 8:39:57 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Remember this? Then they had the big "love in" after she reported her car being attacked.

Reuters – Monday April 26, 2004

LOS ANGELES - A Southern California college professor who received wide media attention when she claimed that racists had vandalized and defaced her car with ethnic slurs was charged on Monday with filing a false police report and insurance fraud.

Kerri Dunn, a professor of psychology at Claremont McKenna College, east of Los Angeles, portrayed herself as a victim of racists angered by her message of tolerance at a campus forum when she reported the vandalism on March 9. She then put in a claim with her auto insurer for damages to her car.

Her story drew media attention and prompted hundreds of students to rally in her name, joined by civil rights activists. But police and FBI agents who investigated the incident began suspecting Dunn of a hoax after witnesses came forward to say they had spotted the 39-year-old professor vandalizing her own car.

She was charged with one misdemeanor count of filing a false police report and two felony counts of insurance fraud. She faces three years in prison if convicted at trial. "False accusations that imply hate crimes prey on the legitimate concerns of the public who truly abhor violence based on race, ethnicity or sexual orientation," Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley said in a statement. "And those who make false claims should realize there is a penalty for doing so."

After Dunn's car was found covered in racial slurs, its tires slashed and windshield shattered, college officials offered a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. Claremont President Pamela Gann has said the college would conduct its own investigation before deciding whether to retain Dunn, whose contract expires later this year.


68 posted on 12/05/2005 8:40:18 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: mattdono
This guy sounds like a phony. Wasn't there some lady recently that accussed some phantom Nazis of attacking her or her car? Turned out that she made the thing up.

Yes, and she was recently convicted of her crimes.

69 posted on 12/05/2005 8:41:17 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Was it a white pick-up and did they have a "Charlton Heston is My President" bumper sticker?

Nope: "Visualize Whirled Peas" He didn't get the color of the pickup truck, or the license plate, but he did get the fabric of the alleged perpetrator's gloves? He's either wandered to Kansas from the cast of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" or he's full of it.

70 posted on 12/05/2005 8:42:26 PM PST by LouD
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To: Sue Bob
I keep remembering that woman activist who faked vandelism to her car on a college campus when I read this story.

That's the first thing that went through my head. I wonder if anybody has a link to that story.

71 posted on 12/05/2005 8:44:03 PM PST by bad company ( Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor

The straw man strikes back.


72 posted on 12/05/2005 8:44:15 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: txroadkill; traviskicks
Well, it took them a month to figure out the one txroadkill put up.

Criminal Investigations are much harder than they seem. Take it from the grandson of a former police chief.

I'll dig into this some more if the mood seizes me and if the rhetoric stays calm here.

73 posted on 12/05/2005 8:44:20 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Merry Christmas!")
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.


74 posted on 12/05/2005 8:44:49 PM PST by sport
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To: randog

Your answer lies in post #68.


75 posted on 12/05/2005 8:45:11 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Merry Christmas!")
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To: Will_Zurmacht

No, it's not just you... I won't say anymore so I don't get accused of being *unchristian*.


76 posted on 12/05/2005 8:45:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?

That's what I was thinking.

Did he get a description of the bad guys? How about the licence plate number? Or a description of the vehicle they were driving??

Are they just described as white guys in thiuer 30's or 40's?

77 posted on 12/05/2005 8:46:23 PM PST by It's me
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Obvious fake. I hope they throw the book at this guy for making this sh*t up.


78 posted on 12/05/2005 8:46:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: hinckley buzzard
"And, "treated and released" is a far cry from "hospitalized after beating." This one definitely flunks the smell test."

No kidding...this guy gets jumped by two "bubbas" and they can't do better than a few bumps and bruises...? I wonder how much it cost to get a couple liberal students to slap him around so he's got a story to tell.
79 posted on 12/05/2005 8:47:13 PM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Sue Bob
There is no real confirmation of injuries in this piece. I am very skeptical. Why would people of the age group and description he gave be that interested in the controversy he prompted?

Well, he insulted them. But I agree it's hard to picture a couple of good old boys taking the trouble to track down his license and physical identity. But who knows? Maybe this information just came their way somehow, and maybe they just happened to come up behind him. I'm inclined to believe that the distinguished professor's account is truthful. If he was treated and released, they were gentle with him. (Of course, this may be taken as cause for skepticism in itself. )

Remember in Crocodile Dundee when he cold cocks that guy in the restaurant? Were we shocked at this felonious assault? No.

I keep remembering that woman activist who faked vandelism to her car on a college campus when I read this story.

That's "vandellism" after Martha and the Vandellas :-)

80 posted on 12/05/2005 8:48:23 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Will_Zurmacht

How convenient. The libs will go all Matthew Shepherd.


81 posted on 12/05/2005 8:48:39 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
"Oh, well. Still, it is odd that the head of the religious studies dept @ KU is an an avowed atheist who hates Catholics and "Fundy morons"."

I smell a set up.

82 posted on 12/05/2005 8:49:12 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Shades of Ross Perot?????


83 posted on 12/05/2005 8:49:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

HA...bruises and sores are probably caused by pestilence and crack/aids. Look at that filth


84 posted on 12/05/2005 8:50:55 PM PST by kajingawd (" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
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To: Tree of Liberty
If he were truly beat up by two grown men and a metal object, he'd have much more severe injuries than just some bruises and sore spots.

HA!
I was thinking that the two evil Christians were not very effective in their beating, were they?

85 posted on 12/05/2005 8:51:01 PM PST by It's me
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To: pierrem15
Touche LOL!!

I knew Chicago in the 70's. Now I am back after so many years.

Wolf
86 posted on 12/05/2005 8:55:13 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

The two essential ingredients for a fake hate crime:

Political benefit to the victim - CHECK
No serious injuries - CHECK

We have a winner.


87 posted on 12/05/2005 8:59:18 PM PST by BinaryBoy
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To: Will_Zurmacht

This "story" really smells like a "story". On the other hand, a spokesman for the Sheriff said the deputies would be joined by OJ Simpson in looking for the perpetrators who allegedly beat the professor.


88 posted on 12/05/2005 8:59:51 PM PST by miele man
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To: Will_Zurmacht

I'm supposed to feel bad I know.

The fact that I don't makes me a long knife right?


89 posted on 12/05/2005 9:00:58 PM PST by wardaddy (Merry Christmas ya'll)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?

Sounds like he got beat up by some honey's John.

90 posted on 12/05/2005 9:03:57 PM PST by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: It's me
Maybe they put on those big, inflatable boxing gloves, first.
91 posted on 12/05/2005 9:04:06 PM PST by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

92 posted on 12/05/2005 9:04:17 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Who wants to take bets that this turns out to be phony?

Or a potential social engagement gone wrong.

93 posted on 12/05/2005 9:06:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Right Wing Professor

No surprises here either.


94 posted on 12/05/2005 9:06:28 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: blue-duncan
Bush and Cheney I tell you. They were tooling around in a pickup looking to roll some atheists.
95 posted on 12/05/2005 9:07:21 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Just came upon this and here I am at post #3 and I find someone who feels the way that I do.

Weird!


96 posted on 12/05/2005 9:09:53 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
anyhow, if its true I hope he gets well soon.

I don't know that I wish him well. If he is spewing and spreading anti-religious hatred, I say he deserved it. Yes we have free speach. But all that means is you won't get arrested. That doesn't entitle you to not pay a price for your actions. I certainly wouldn't go into Camden NJ or Philly yelling the 'N' word. I'm free to do so, but I'm pretty sure I'd be a little worse for wear than the guy in the article. I also wouldn't tell a big strapping lad that I did his mother and sister. Well, you get my drift.

97 posted on 12/05/2005 9:09:54 PM PST by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: Go Gordon

A truly Christian response.


98 posted on 12/05/2005 9:12:30 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: oldbrowser
The guy with the red visor and wool gloves, did he have a bunch of reindeer with him ?

"Grandma got run over by a reindeeeeer..."

99 posted on 12/05/2005 9:12:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: conservativewasp
Fight Club?
100 posted on 12/05/2005 9:16:01 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his belated Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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